[liv2mx]

make sure the distance from your left upper and right lower is the same from front to back.does not look like it is.

 

[Bones]

make sure the distance from your left upper and right lower is the same from front to back.does not look like it is.

do you mean upper and lower link seperation? I always like to have difference in the seperation, ususally I aim for 8-9" seperation on the axle and 6-7" seperation on the chassis.

edit- as far as triangulation in the links, I aim for atleast 30deg of triangulation. So for example, if your lowers are straight and parallel to each other, the uppers need to have 30deg triangulation in relation to the lowers. Or, your lowers can have a 10 deg difference to easch other (10 degrees non-parallel), then your uppers canhave a 20 deg difference to each other (combines for 30 deg).

 

[CheapThrillB2]

Don't feel bad, I haven't a clue what that stuff means. Tutorial Brandon?

I just got off the phone with trying to edumicate me :sonicjay:

 

[Grassman]

Do you feel smarter?

 

[CheapThrillB2]

A bit better understanding, yes.

 

[feva4u]

 

[liv2mx]

do you mean upper and lower link seperation? I always like to have difference in the seperation, ususally I aim for 8-9" seperation on the axle and 6-7" seperation on the chassis.

edit- as far as triangulation in the links, I aim for atleast 30deg of triangulation. So for example, if your lowers are straight and parallel to each other, the uppers need to have 30deg triangulation in relation to the lowers. Or, your lowers can have a 10 deg difference to easch other (10 degrees non-parallel), then your uppers canhave a 20 deg difference to each other (combines for 30 deg).

not talking seperation, but yea 5 to 7 on frame 8 to 10 on axle for seperation.
it's hard to explain.but if you stand at the back and look at the left upper bar and right lower bar.they need to be as close as you can get them to the same distance from the front mounts on the frame to the rear mounts on the axle.so your rear 4 link bars will be like 2 box's. this is very important.

from the picture it looks like your upper axle mounts on the truss,could come in closer.

 

[liv2mx]

i showed brandon at the badlands what i mean.

 

[CheapThrillB2]

I need to bite the bullet and buy excel :whiz:

 

[feva4u]

Triangulation in the uppers and lowers as layed out. Again, I'm just doing the numbers, I'm no expert.
9.6 x 2=19.2 deg in the uppers, 8.4 x 2 = 16.8 deg in the lowers. So 36 deg of triangulation.


Erin, I layed mine out like you talked about and my roll steer got worse. On Johns above it's 24 at the frame and 25 at the axle so they're within an inch of "parallel" The roll axis goes from -.9 to -.5 if I bring the lower axle side in to 17 and make it 24 and 24 but the triangulation goes from 36deg down to 33 deg. Bones default was min 30 so they both qualify, I'm not sure what effect it would have with the lowers at 36" separation at the axle vs 34".

 

[CheapThrillB2]

I found an product key that works :sonicjay: :woot:

 

[feva4u]

I need to bite the bullet and buy excel :whiz:

I think there's a web based version that still works in the link on pirate so you wouldn't have to buy excel.

 

[feva4u]

I found an product key that works :sonicjay: :woot:

Nice :sonicjay:

 

[feva4u]

I should be able to look at it in person in a few days hopefully.

 

[Grassman]

I want to meet you there, hopefully I can learn a thing or 2...

 

[feva4u]

I don't know much more than the thread I read and a couple conversations with 95geo about doing mine. I'm just the guy putting stuff into excel. Hopefully more people will chime in and we can all learn something about it. :thumb:

 

[Grassman]

You could show us what all that paper shit is in real world application

 

[s.hembree]

You could show us what all that paper shit is in real world application

He's an enginerd, they're clueless when it comes to real world application... they only know paper shit. :teehee:

 

[CheapThrillB2]

I think the biggest difference is that you read it and comprehend and understand. In all honestly I don't learn shit from reading, I learn from hands on.

 

[feva4u]

These are the boxes Erin is talking about. It can get a little weird because you're dealing with 3d locations for roll steer as well as the 2d "boxes" that Erin's talking about.