I read on the slsd forum this pile of garbage is ready for another weekend of being a pile of garbage. 1/2 my casino cash to the person who posts fotos of the hack job fix of the chassis.

 

He fish plated the frame where it broke. Looked fine to me. He was busy working on something when I stopped by. Not the greatest designed rig but its not as bad as you guys that have never seen it are claiming.

 

What is fish plated? Any pics of it destroyed from this weekend?

 

 

is there not a bar from the B pillar to the rear of the truck, or atleast behind the rear suspension load point?

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...0200445068743706&set=a.1732149217986.2087151.1066178181&type=1&relevant_count=1


better pic, but no.

 

Not to keep this all going, but that truck is an out of date Pro 2 that has a 5.0 in it now I believe. I have not seen it this year but last year it had a 351 that was on the passenger side not in the front, but you should have been able to figure that out from the pics/ vid. He also has a old prolite with a 22R that's still tore up from last year. Or at least was a few weeks ago.

I really don't know Mike well but we have mutual freinds and I have been around him now and again. He seem like a alright guy, probably not wired right, but that could be said about alot of us :sonicjay:.

 

why would a trophy truck have a stock frame?

 

It's all tube frame...oke:

 

Nascar has conditions that get the cars out of control but I don't think I have ever seen a video of a car changing lanes purely because the driver throttled it and it had so much torque steer that he couldn't keep it straight. Add in double the speed and a dozen other cars around you while you are on a banked turn and it = not a good analogy.

I love the motor in the yellow jeep but when watching the vids of it crossing lanes and going crooked simply by throttle control (or lack of) I have to agree with Kickstand that it seems pretty unbalanced.

Here's another example.
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Watch the vids of Dan Perkins. Lots of HP but it won't launch without lifting the front and he can't keep it straight = not any fast runs. Then watch some of the other rigs stay stable.

Big motors and ballsy drivers don't overcome a chassis, suspension, tire hookup and balance that can't handle the HP.

I would almost agree with your analogy, except....
That Jeep works great in controlled conditions (at the track). He takes it all over to have fun with it though, even though it may not be suited best for the dunes/hill climbs/snow/etc; he uses it to have fun and enjoy himself.
Along that lines goes nascar......
Take a car out of that controlled environment, put in let's say a wet road highway, how "safe" is it?
I've seen a lot of professional built chassis cars hit the guard rail at the dragstrip. Professional built chassis cars with professionally paid drivers. All in a controlled environment.

 

I would almost agree with your analogy, except....
That Jeep works great in controlled conditions (at the track). He takes it all over to have fun with it though, even though it may not be suited best for the dunes/hill climbs/snow/etc; he uses it to have fun and enjoy himself.
Along that lines goes nascar......
Take a car out of that controlled environment, put in let's say a wet road highway, how "safe" is it?
I've seen a lot of professional built chassis cars hit the guard rail at the dragstrip. Professional built chassis cars with professionally paid drivers. All in a controlled environment.

Maybe the jeep does work great at the track. But every vid I've seen of it, it is pulling the front wheels super high and torque steering all over the place. Neither trait is good for control either for recreation or at the track. It's only good for showing off. Isn't the snow drag a "controlled track"?

When is the last time you have seen a Nascar car out doing stupid stuff on the highway? Maybe............ never???? You cannot use Nascar as an analogy. They are professional teams pushing the limit for PROFIT and they also have to follow a very strict set of guidelines. They have millions of $$$ on the line. This guy only has his weekend warrior budget and his ego on the line.

There is no no doubt that well built cars have gone wild at the dragstip. I would guess in every case, the owner/drivers have said WTF did we do wrong and how can we fix it? Not go out and do it repeatedly just to show off.

 

Info from some quick facebook stalking via the above post

"I cant believe all the critics out there in the internet world! I have been building this truck for over a year! it started out as a short course race truck we converted to play in the sand dunes, we have been increasing our distance each time we go out, the truck is almost perfectly weighted, I never dreamed in a million years I would fly that far or stay in the air that long, the video doesn't show the first two jumps I made that were perfect, I had my foot mashed on the brake as hard as I could I was going over 70 mph at launch and yes after watching the video I built a large sail and I am telling you write now that I will fix the issue and some point someday when the time is write I will go over 200ft. P.S. the truck should be back in action this weekend!"

 

Ya I don't think a real pro9000 truck would have broke there

 

I "recognize" the shop he is in. He is in good hands. :rock:

 

jpfab?

 

I hope he gets that shit write!

 

Write on!

 

I wonder if the weakness in the frame is what saved his neck in this landing? I hope he is wearing a neck brace when doing this ?
I dont care if anyones dislikes him or his truck I hate to see a guy getting hurt.

 

I'm guessing it absorbed a lot of the impact. I stopped and talked to him for a minute on Saturday but he was working on it and didn't stay long. I didn't get a chance to look inside but I'm guessing its got a good seat setup.

 

talked with him yesterday the truck looks like a pile of shit un painted rusty looking, but is built top notch the rear of that truck was designed to do just what it did. had it not broke he most likely would have went ass over apple carts down the rest of the hill.

 

Really? He ran that chassis design through simulations to get a crumple zone out of it? That's very interesting. I wonder who he was running his simulations or is he doing it himself? I'm guessing he told people it was supposed to do that to make the truck sound more official. Very classy move in my book. BTW did you know Al Gore invented the Internet?

 

Looks like it WAS a fun rig :teehee:

 

looks fixed and like a fun rig again.

 

Leisure suits.

 

Heck yes!

 

i read he wasn't even wearing a helmet

 

Can't be true, it's a pro7000 truck, it won't start without a helemt

 

or a cathater.

 

Hancho,
Rectangular tube is called rectangular tube in the industry. :fish:

 

I don't know what "IDK" means?

 

just sound it out :teehee:

 

Eye Dee Kay?

 

I was going with id-kay

I don't know, maybe it's one of those new fangled text words?

 

Like that damn LOL, makes me laugh out loud when I don't know what anyone is talking about.

 

I know right? It's like oh my god, what in the world are these guys talking about? And the I am all laughing my ass off and rolling on the floor laughing my ass off and stuff.

 

oooooooh burn.

 

this guy was taking it to the limit!! at TO THE LIMIT II back in 04 bitches

 

I smell fishplates on the tube frame of that trophy jeep.

 

I know him. Thats a Trophy Jeep.

 

im curious why everything mike has done is wrong? whats wrong with fish plating the frame? why does the cage work seem like its from the 80's? the cage was overbuillt for what he is using it for so he cut up the cage and rewelded it to lighten it up, but still keep strength where it needs to be. in all seriousness go up to the dunes and stop mike and talk to him about it. might just change all your minds.

 

Probably not,........... He was out of control in that video, with to many people around. He didn't do anybody any service by showing his ego. Far too dangerous to be doing that type of jumping at the dunes.

Like I said earlier, had he done this off hours with safety barriers and equipment, I would have been okay with it. He risked not only his health and welfare, but all of those spectating. He didn't have proper control of the truck, otherwise he would not have aired with his nose up like that.

All I saw in that video was ego, and ammunition to shut the dunes down.

I'm not against jumping, in fact I'm very proud of the photo that I have of you in the blue truck, this guy however needs an adjustment.