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#1 ·
my bride has decided we need a compact tractor to maintain our wooded sand dune. I have a thirty year old Snapper lawn tractor for grass cutting. I also have a twenty year old Simplicity garden tractor with a blade for pushing snow. Both have seen better days, but prior to the move received regular maintenance and will be staying. It is a little thing, but neither one has a left pedal.

Not knowing what I don’t know, I figured the wealth of knowledge in such things on here could only help. we are looking at something 4x4, diesel, less than 25hp. We plan on looking at a used Kubota next week.
 
#52 ·
I use this tiny FEL to move around heavy shit in places I can't fit anything else. The problem is that it's got a garbage transmission (has high and low range, but everything is brass, no synchros). It's gloriously slow, so I often point it in the direction of where I want it to go and go walk off and do something else. I'm actually not kidding. I'd use it more, but the transmission is infuriating to use. It's so heavy, it can't actually pull 3rd gear because it can't start moving itself in 3rd gear in high range. Since there are no synchros, there is no shifting on the fly.

It can lift a D60 or a 14FF without issue, but you can't raise it too high loaded heavy because it will be a white knuckle ride. More than once I've had someone standing on the weights on the back and we've both gone for a ride. You also can't get off it once you lift something heavy. I use it in the garage to lift things off a trailer and set it down because I have a gravel driveway and nothing else I have can fit in the garage, move around, and lift.

Safety second!

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#54 ·
Check titan attachments scratch and dent section daily, they have good deals. Their regular prices are pretty good, and the scratch and dent is like 30-40% off. I got a set of 48" pallet forks and the backer for about $500. And a 3 project quick attach for 125.
 
#56 ·
Well, I never knew how much I needed one until I bought one.
This beats out all my other snow weapons by far. Added quick hitch and a 6’ back blade. I have a little over 800’ of pavement and managed to keep it clean all winter, with much less effort. The ATV is more fun, but Ko Buddha does a better job.
Ko Buddha will be with us for a long time.

”Black Driveways Matter”

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#57 ·
Very nice! It's amazing the uses you find for it once you have it. Looks like you got one without a loader though, that's gonna be a limiter
 
#59 ·
Mowing and maintaining our little perimeter trail with the FEL attached would be impossible.
There are a couple remedies to that being considered. An aftermarket one is about $5k. Hell, I can almost find a whole another “B” tractor with one for that! It’s almost manic.
A landscape rake is next
 
#58 ·
I picked up a quick attach plate for the loader on my kubota; and a good friend gave me a 6.5ft plow setup. I plan on welding everything together to make a quick attach plow setup...eventually lol

This year was kind of a bust, was a good amount of snow, but not enough to make me wish I had something heavier than my ATV. Plus, my drive is not overly long; about 75 yards.

That quck attach setup, along with the backblade; i'd be ready for any UP level snowfall haha
 
#60 ·
I picked up a quick attach plate for the loader on my kubota; and a good friend gave me a 6.5ft plow setup. I plan on welding everything together to make a quick attach plow setup...eventually lol

This year was kind of a bust, was a good amount of snow, but not enough to make me wish I had something heavier than my ATV. Plus, my drive is not overly long; about 75 yards.

That quck attach setup, along with the backblade; i'd be ready for any UP level snowfall haha
That was my original plan too but I ultimately decided we don't get nearly enough snow down here nearly often enough to bother with it. Up north sure, but not here. I even found one with the plow and SSQA plate that someone planned to do the same with for sale locally for $200 and passed on it. I know that was a steal, but it's just one more damn thing I didn't need sitting around. Our driveway is a couple hundred yards long but most of it is a shared easement and the guy on the end usually plows with his SxS before I get a chance to. I only did 2 "real" plow jobs this winter; once when neighbor was out of town and once when his SxS died on him.
 
#70 ·
After years of dreaming, today was finally the day. I just bought a new 2022 Kubota LX2610SU! Quick attach loader, 3rd function kit, 54" bucket and land pride grapple. Got the R14 tires loaded. It should be delivered next week.

I'll also plan on getting a back blade, pallet forks, a rear quick hitch, a bucket tooth bar and 2" wheel spacers for it :) I can't wait to put it to use!
 
#71 ·
After years of dreaming, today was finally the day. I just bought a new 2022 Kubota LX2610SU! Quick attach loader, 3rd function kit, 54" bucket and land pride grapple. Got the R14 tires loaded. It should be delivered next week.

I'll also plan on getting a back blade, pallet forks, a rear quick hitch, a bucket tooth bar and 2" wheel spacers for it :) I can't wait to put it to use!
Just my .02, the quick hitch is really only reliable if you buy all the same brand equipment, new. If your stuff is going to end up being like mine, and probably most others as well, an amalgamation of different brands and ages, you'd be better off getting a Pats easy Change over a full quick hitch. 100% on the pallet forks, those were my #1 must have when I got my tractor. A 3rd function kit with a grapple bucket would definitely have been a plus as well, I am a little jealous for those.

For the wheel spacers, any specific ones for a tractor? I can't remember where, probably this thread, but there was some discussion about them. I personally don't like the idea on a larger machine, but I also have zero experience with them on a tractor. They've lasted for years just fine on my chevy truck though. Curious if you could just swap around the tires? watched a YouTube video from a guy in Australia that picked up a little B series kubota, had an issue with it being to narrow and that's all he did, was turn the tires around so the offset was backwards. Seemed to work fine.
 
#72 ·
Nice! How much more was the mid PTO? I always wanted one so I could run a second pump. One of my complaints about the modern smaller tractors is they tell you pump flow is something but you lose 2+gpm to the power steering and the rating is at WFO. Pretty easy to add a mid PTO pump on a Kubota because the output for the mid PTO is the same as IH rear PTO.
 
#76 ·
Box blade is 10x better than a regular blade for that kind of stuff, FYI. Needs the weight and ripper teeth to do anything, a regular blade pretty much just skips across the surface. I've never once used the cruise control on my tractor. Only time I could see doing that is if I were finish mowing a huge field or something.
 
#78 ·
I didn't know the SU got rid of anything other than the mid PTO. Having two pumps is kind of a requirement for me after being spoiled with hydraulics that move fluid enough that you actually have to feather the valves. And the loader still moves when turning. And you don't have to run it wide open. Kubotas are real easy to put a second pump on.
 
#79 ·
I have zero complaints with the pump output on my 2610. Yes, the output capacity is split between them, but it's never felt like a hindrance and I rarely run WFO. It'll turn, lift, and curl simultaneously and I'm always feathering the valves for better precision. It's not a skidsteer but the only time it's ever felt slow to me was doing a very high lift and dump, which is a rare occurence for me and in all honesty any faster would probably be a safety issue. Not like a lawyer driven safety thing, but a legitimate way to hurt yourself or the machine.
 
#81 ·
I'm loving this tractor BTW! I got about 5hr on it so far and I'm glad I didn't go with a smaller unit. I picked up a used Land Pride 6' back blade and york rake so far, I need a set of pallet forks bad and a wicked tooth bar for the bucket.
 
#90 ·
Thanks wave_crusher for the feedback. I kind of thought Kubota had that system, but it seemed a bit vague. Good info on the forks working to lift stumps.

I've looked at the RK (TYM) tractors over the past few months. There's also a TYM dealer (Hodges) on the north side of Fenton. It seems like everybody is happy with Kubota, and given I'd like to keep long term, I'm leaning towards that. But nothing is set in stone.
 
#94 ·
Thanks wave_crusher for the feedback. I kind of thought Kubota had that system, but it seemed a bit vague. Good info on the forks working to lift stumps.

I've looked at the RK (TYM) tractors over the past few months. There's also a TYM dealer (Hodges) on the north side of Fenton. It seems like everybody is happy with Kubota, and given I'd like to keep long term, I'm leaning towards that. But nothing is set in stone.
I said as much earlier, but Kubota was really only my first choice because it's what I started out with. I looked at several other brands but what sold me was the 0% financing for the entire time on the Kubota. The other had normal financing and TYM had like a credit card thing you had to apply for. Cost was a factor to me and it was actually cheaper to buy the more expensive Kubota (if that makes sense). Plus, Kubota is definitely a high end machine and parts are readily available.

A family member recently bought a new holland and he has nothing but complaints about the lack of loader power; not sure why as it's a bigger machine than mine and can't lift half of what my tractor can. Though, can chalk that up to something not technically machine related, but still. It's also gone back to the dealer for several repairs of things that either broke or were broken from the factory.

All the rk ls and off brand tractors are the same. Made in India I think. I bought Kubota for the reliability and ease of parts and repair shop if needed. Plus the warranty is awesome and I believe Kubota is only tractor that doesn’t require def

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My kubota does not require def..wonder if that is something that is more normal on larger, farm size machines? It does have the DPF system on it though, which can be costly to replace if needed. As of now, I have had zero problems with it, just over 100 hours on my machine; so just getting broken in still.
 
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#91 ·
quick attach bucket is a must in any given weekend I will have my bucket, forks, grapple and the tree pincher on the front of Lou sometimes switching items 5 or 6 times in a day depending on what I am working on.

I have around 500 hours of seat time on Lou and My old man left 2 weeks ago for his cabin with his TYM riding piggyback, talked to my mom the other day and she said Dad has been playing from sunup to sundown on his tractor with a shit eating grin on his face. He keeps sending me photos of oak stumps he dug out along side his trails.

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#93 ·
All the rk ls and off brand tractors are the same. Made in India I think. I bought Kubota for the reliability and ease of parts and repair shop if needed. Plus the warranty is awesome and I believe Kubota is only tractor that doesn’t require def


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#95 ·
Def is not required for motors of 25 hp, and down no little tractor requires DEF. The TYM is the only one on the market that does not require it on there bigger motors, Lou is 57 Hp and does not use DEF, She is not even a common rail, they use a knock off of the Cummins 4 Bt with a Bosch mechanical injector pump strapped to her side.
 
#98 ·
Correct, think it's 26hp and up require DPF system...A couple of the youtube channels I watch have large JD tractors and they DEF systems. No idea what the actual requirements are on it.
 
#97 ·
The idea of getting a $30k tractor to buy a $3k belly mower that a $3k zero turn can do in half the time without the wear and tear on the tractor is amusing. Plunking down that kind of cash to mow the lawn would be like getting a BAE Caiman to get groceries. Sure, it'll do it, but maybe you should consider the right tool for the job.

It's funny, I was looking at the maintenance log to see if I should do an oil change on the zero turn. Haven't had to mow in a while because someone turned off the rain spigot.

I have a zero turn with ~700 hours on it and it's 11 years old.
Oil changes every year, new gator blades every year/sharpened every 3rd mowing...
New deck and drive belt every other year...
Two new batteries...
1 air filter...
1 set of new front tires...
1 oil & filter change in the wheel motors
1 new blade hub (was rock splitting)
1 repair on the deck as the discharge wore through (I mostly mow sand with some weeds mixed in).


The deck is getting thin, one blade hub rumbles a bit (still have two spares from when I bought the replacement for the rock splitter 5 years ago), and the starter is on its last leg (won't start it when hot) for the last two years. I have a new starter sitting on the bench to go on it.
 
#99 ·
The idea of getting a $30k tractor to buy a $3k belly mower that a $3k zero turn can do in half the time without the wear and tear on the tractor is amusing. Plunking down that kind of cash to mow the lawn would be like getting a BAE Caiman to get groceries. Sure, it'll do it, but maybe you should consider the right tool for the job.

It's funny, I was looking at the maintenance log to see if I should do an oil change on the zero turn. Haven't had to mow in a while because someone turned off the rain spigot.

I have a zero turn with ~700 hours on it and it's 11 years old.
Oil changes every year, new gator blades every year/sharpened every 3rd mowing...
New deck and drive belt every other year...
Two new batteries...
1 air filter...
1 set of new front tires...
1 oil & filter change in the wheel motors
1 new blade hub (was rock splitting)
1 repair on the deck as the discharge wore through (I mostly mow sand with some weeds mixed in).


The deck is getting thin, one blade hub rumbles a bit (still have two spares from when I bought the replacement for the rock splitter 5 years ago), and the starter is on its last leg (won't start it when hot) for the last two years. I have a new starter sitting on the bench to go on it.


I know I picked this thing up at an auction for like 1800 bucks with 1600 hours on it in 2018 I have replaced one battery and added gas and oil over the past 5 seasons, it cut my mowing time from 1.5 hours a week to between 20 and 30 minutes a week depending on how much of the kid's shit get run over in a given week.

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#104 ·
We have a kubota b2650 at work for snow removal, and just my opinion it would be the smallest size tractor I would ever get personally. I’ve had to use it a few times and have been actually impressed with how it handles blowing heavy/large UP accumulations of snow. We keep a back blade on it for quick cleanups and misc yard work in the summer. When using the blade it does handle it just fine/has the power an traction. I can’t say anything about a loader as we don’t have one on it yet but trying to get one so we can get pallet forks for moving things around outdoors etc when the forklift is in use elsewhere in the shop.
I’m going to agree with Wrath on the zero turn vs tractor, but everyone’s situation is different.
My dad has a small kubota (I forget the size but it’s a garden tractor on steroids) he has a loader/back blade/finish mower/rear mount snowblower. Loader can barely lift high enough/weight wise to get things out of the back of typical 3/4 ton truck, hell it couldn’t lift a big block Chevy out of my truck. The blower dogs down on large snow accumulations, you have to take multiple passes etc. He got so beat up mowing with it he bought a zero turn, and it cut his mow time in half (3ish acres mixed hills/trees. Having the loader makes it clumsy when mowing, harder to get close to obstacles.
Rapid attach loader or not you’ll probably find yourself leaving it on year round, you’ll find more uses for a loader than you ever thought possiable, same with pallet forks, a must have.
 
#105 ·
When it comes to sizing a tractor I’ll say the same thing I’ve told 5+ people when they ask me about tractors, spec out what you think will work for you/fit your needs and go 1 size bigger. Everyone who has done that has thanked me for that advice when they purchased, all have said im glad I didn’t get the smaller unit. The one guy who didn’t listen, is always bitching about how his doesn’t have the height/power/and I need a bigger tractor, plus he keeps blowing front axles/bending/breaking the loader from working it too hard.

Tractors are awesome tools, I wish I would have bought my first one years earlier, it would have paid for its self just in all the chiropractic bills from lifting too much stuff around here before I bought one.
 
#106 ·
I've had a compact tractor on my hit list for the past 5 years. I have a list of jobs that I'd like to get done around the house, and I really don't want to have to bug friends to bring theirs over, hire out the work, or rent something. At this point in my life, I'm sick of buying someone else's problems and would rather just get what I want.

Until this weekend, I had 0 thought of using it for mowing, but it's another item to put on the list that it can do. For the past 15 years our neighbor mowed our yard as part of their lawn service. He passed away in late 2021, and his wife kept mowing but is overwhelmed by the maintenance on the mower and doesn't want to bother her son or me to help. Sadly, I can see her moving out of the house next door in the next few years as all of the maintenance effort adds up.
 
#108 · (Edited)
I've had a compact tractor on my hit list for the past 5 years. I have a list of jobs that I'd like to get done around the house, and I really don't want to have to bug friends to bring theirs over, hire out the work, or rent something. At this point in my life, I'm sick of buying someone else's problems and would rather just get what I want.

Until this weekend, I had 0 thought of using it for mowing, but it's another item to put on the list that it can do. For the past 15 years our neighbor mowed our yard as part of their lawn service. He passed away in late 2021, and his wife kept mowing but is overwhelmed by the maintenance on the mower and doesn't want to bother her son or me to help. Sadly, I can see her moving out of the house next door in the next few years as all of the maintenance effort adds up.
I have a lot of equipment, right or wrong. My dad and I like hoarding up tools. This is my rambling input.

Kubota holds it's value the best. If you ever think about selling it, you will get most of your money back. JD is next - JD repairs parts are stupid expensive compared to other brands.

You're buying the dealer too - especially with a less common brand. If the dealer doesn't give you warm and fuzzies, remember they are mostly who you will deal with for parts or service.

I personally liked Kioti and Kubota when I was looking, but I don't have a TYM dealer anywhere close. New Holland, Case, Kioti and Kubota are all within 15 minutes.

I have had my Husqvarna zero turn almost 10 years, it takes less than half the time of my garden tractor mowing and is less than my midmount on my New Holland too.

My dad is open field, I am a yard within woods. Last year I had the very first issue with my Zero turn that required a shop visit. I pressed my New Holland TC33D into service mowing since I had both the midmount and the Kubota 3pt finish mowers. The New Holland with Super Steer has like an 18" or something turning radius measured at the rear tire, it will almost pivot on that rear tire. It worked, but long term I wouldn't be happy with it. It is a lot heavier and if the yard is soft (IE Spring) divots it more. Also for mowing with obstacles you are always removing the loader. It isn't hard, but god damn if I can ever get the hydraulic QCs to connect again. It sits so much higher it feels awkward too. I found the 3pt finish mower to work amazing on my woods trails. I have about a mile of them out back. It previously was used on my dads yard and it was slow for that. My dad more than halved the time on the open field going away from a tractor and to a ZT.

I would personally try to borrow/rent a ZT for a week or two and borrow or rent a tractor with a mower before you drop 3-4k on the midmount to not be happy with it. That money gets you a lower end ZT. Get loaders/midmounts etc at time of purchase, they will never be cheaper.

I have a Husqvarna MZT61 as my mower with the Briggs. Batteries, blades, oil changes and an oil pan gasket are all it has had in 9 years. It isn't high end and rides like shit, but it's solid. If a ZT is breaking down a lot IMO it is user error or bottom barrel.

I bought my TC33D used, it is an older Shiabaura built NH and it superior to the newer LS built ones. I had one F up that cost me $5500 PTO repair but it was 100% my fault. My only complaint with it is I wish it lifted more. 1300lbs is all it can do it is rated for 1k. There are not that many in the compact market that are rated for 2k and the way they rate them is all different. Some are rated at the pins, some are rated in the bucket etc. I have the SSQA on my loader - it is a must. The JD proprietary system does have an adapter, but it affects the lifting capacity.

Lastly they ALL can have issues. My uncles Kubota had 3 or 4 warrantied steering rams, PO receipts showed mine got a cylinder sleeve at 80 hours, My buddies Kioti went back a time or two. None are perfect.

EDIT: Get the 3rd option on the loader and rear remotes. 3rd option will run a grapple and they are amazing, the rear outputs control a hydraulic 3rd link - also amazing and only a couple hundred bucks.
 
#107 ·
When I was looking, this is what I wanted. I came close.

 
#110 ·
So the plan is to sell the Rzr and use that for tractor down payment. They have 0% until end of the month, I do hope they extend if I can't find a quick buyer. So far it's been trades for Harleys.

In the meantime our grass is growing, and no lawn service will even come give a quote I ended up doing what I wasn't super excited to do and that is to grab a new zero turn. We figured it was going to be at least $3500 for the 60 mower, or $4350 for the 72" mower. We extended that budget out and have a zero turn coming in the next couple of days. This takes the pressure off needing the tractor in a hurry, and keeps the yard under control.

I do think I'm going for the L2501 over the LX2610, since we'll have a dedicated mower and won't need the mid-mount PTO for the mower. I'd like the more rugged tractor for what I'm hoping to get done around here.

Thanks all for the feedback.
 
#116 ·
Last week I bought an L2501. Got in before 0% financing ended. They said it should be ready next week. They had a big rush on units as the 0% is going away indefinitely due to interest rates being high, or that's what the guy said.

Now I'm chomping at the bit to take delivery. Ended up with forks and a front plow for my driveway. Will see how I like it. Looking at building a ballast box out of some leftover materials floating around here. Likely be my first project along with getting the piranha toothbar.
 
#117 ·
Last week I bought an L2501. Got in before 0% financing ended. They said it should be ready next week. They had a big rush on units as the 0% is going away indefinitely due to interest rates being high, or that's what the guy said.

Now I'm chomping at the bit to take delivery. Ended up with forks and a front plow for my driveway. Will see how I like it. Looking at building a ballast box out of some leftover materials floating around here. Likely be my first project along with getting the piranha toothbar.
Congrats!

I have had my L2501 for about a year. I absolutely love the tractor, and the Piranha Bar I added (it helps a lot!). The base L2501 seat is just fine, too. Comments about replacing the seat may apply to older models (I heard they changed at some point). No complaints here.

I don't personally care for the service of my local Kubota dealer, but the tractor itself rocks.

I likely won't consider any more Land Pride implements (I did buy a Land Pride bush hog with the tractor), as they are priced ridiculously high relative to other options, and the quality doesn't appear to justify the premium price, IMHO.

A home-built ballast box will be my next addition. My rear tires are filled, but I'm giving the loader a good workout with excavation work in very rocky East Tennessee soil.

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