Never. Heard of CFmoto.

since I understand the polaris lineup better, are you looking at Ranger ((full uti) or General (mixed)?

 

CFMoto has been around for several years. They started out as a gray market ATV supplier from China, similar to Yanmar equipment. Initially they were very cheap construction. Since then they've got a huge following, and the quality is seemingly pretty high. I looked at their quads and side by side Zforce, it's pretty nice stuff. They have some designs that are better than what I've seen in Polaris. That being said, i've never owned one myself.

Looking at more of a ranger than a general. Don't really care about sport, as for me I can just as easily run the ranger for fun down trails and what not. I do like the Ranger 570 fullsize, cause it comes with 3 seats

 

Roxor ?

 

That would be fun!

 

Contact Karl or one of his boys at Trailsport Motors in Brown City. Trailsport Motors | Michigan's Powersport & Equipment Dealer
Among others, they sell the Intimidator brand SXS, which is American made.

Tell Karl I sent you. He will be sure to charge you more. LOL

 

Contact Karl or one of his boys at Trailsport Motors in Brown City. Trailsport Motors | Michigan's Powersport & Equipment Dealer
Among others, they sell the Intimidator brand SXS, which is American made.

Tell Karl I sent you. He will be sure to charge you more. LOL

Hey Karl, WhiteRhino sent me.

Que the side glances and Karl pulling out the "Special Items"

 

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I do like this one a lot; the specs on it are very nice, and 3 seater too

 

It's a family owned business. Karl was very active here 15-ish years ago as Ridgerunner. He was a builder when the market went to shit in 2008 and started buying repo'd atv's at auction as a side gig. He has now built it into a business where his wife quit her job to work at the company full time and it supports his 2 20-something aged boys, all while he was fighting cancer. He is an awesome guy with great integrity.

I don't endorse many people but I will go to the ground putting my name behind him.

 

Been looking at the Intimidators since you mentioned them. So far i'm pretty impressed with the build; they're not kidding with being "overbuilt". The GC1K has some really awesome features; I think i'd be just as happy with the 750 classic, though I admit to being apprehensive about it being an air cooled engine. Only problem I have is that the 750 doesn't come with Power Steering, and on a UTV, IMO that's a must.

Polaris 570 or 1000 ranger or forget it. Say ur out in boonies and ya snap a tie rod or axle which happens or something breaks. Where are ya gonna get parts ? Someone in ur group may have s spare Polaris part on hand or there’s a dealer close by. Plus they are rock solid machines. If you are looking at a 3 seater this would be my only option. I live 16 mins from a 1000 acre atv only trail place and you do not see knock off brands. If you do they do not last. No way I’d spend 12k on a cf moto when a 570 ranger is 12.5k. Polaris supposedly stopped taking pre orders and is doing first come first serve. My buddy just bought a 1000 base ranger 2 weeks ago and he said call dealer and get on a list more or less. Serious buyers get called first


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The problem I have with Polaris is the price tag; a stock 570 ranger full size is already $12.5, and it doesn't come with anything. No winch, no power steering, nothing. All that can be bought separate, which I would do as i'd never pay a dealer $800 for a $300 winch..etc. That being said, if you can take the same $12.5k and add say couple hundred more, and get a 1000, with winch, power steering, front/rear glass, roof, heated seats, better towing and cargo capacity; it's difficult to say "you get what you pay for". All those accessories on even just a 570 ranger, you'd be into it for nearly $20k. Not even going into the Ranger 1000 which already starts at nearly $20k, bone stock.

Even if the Ranger is a better machine, I would say it's also about using it. I don't plan to run it at ATV parks all the time. It's for work and part fun. Also take that with a grain of salt as I've rode in one ranger and it was ok, and one CFmoto and it was ok. The biggest thing is just spending the same money for less machine, and less stuff.

If the price is the reason for interest in CF, I would recommend a used unit that is like new. I bought a maverick from a friend last year. Wanted new, but not willing to pay that much. I got my friends in same as new condition with tasteful mods at a large discount.. Not as easy, but can be done that way...

Price is the reason, like I stated above. Like with most other stuff, I have no problem paying premiums, as long as I am getting my money's worth, and not just buying the Polaris name. As with the reasons stated above; even used Rangers go for a premium (also the times right now too, add that factor in as well). There's a very nice Ranger 1000 used for sale at Lakeside Motor Sports, but even that used, being a 2020, has 11,000 miles. That a shitload of miles for less than 2 ish years old and still priced at $16,000. There's a general 1000 as well, a 2019 with 5,400 miles going for $20,000.

Demand drives everything, somehow CFmoto is keeping their stuff at a more reasonable price, and even if polaris or other brand has a better machine, the cfmoto can't be that bad; otherwise they wouldn't be selling so many.

That being said, i'm very impressed with the Intimidator machines; that I would be more likely to spend the extra money on for the same price as the rangers; and the intimidators come with more accessories right out of the gate.

 

Polaris 570 or 1000 ranger or forget it. Say ur out in boonies and ya snap a tie rod or axle which happens or something breaks. Where are ya gonna get parts ? Someone in ur group may have s spare Polaris part on hand or there’s a dealer close by. Plus they are rock solid machines. If you are looking at a 3 seater this would be my only option. I live 16 mins from a 1000 acre atv only trail place and you do not see knock off brands. If you do they do not last. No way I’d spend 12k on a cf moto when a 570 ranger is 12.5k. Polaris supposedly stopped taking pre orders and is doing first come first serve. My buddy just bought a 1000 base ranger 2 weeks ago and he said call dealer and get on a list more or less. Serious buyers get called first


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If the price is the reason for interest in CF, I would recommend a used unit that is like new. I bought a maverick from a friend last year. Wanted new, but not willing to pay that much. I got my friends in same as new condition with tasteful mods at a large discount.. Not as easy, but can be done that way...

 

Giving serious thought to this:

Trailsport Motors | Michigan's Powersport & Equipment Dealer

Trailsport Motors in Brown City MI. Our brands include Kawasaki Side by Sides & ATV's Spartan Mowers, SCAG, Gravely, Ariens, Intimidator UTV, GPX Moto, and ECHO, parts and accessories. We service all major brands like Polaris, Can Am, Honda, Yamaha, eXmark.

www.trailsportmotors.com

 

Give him a call.........

 

Open till 5, and I'm out of work at 4:30; going to call today I think. Very much like the looks of those machines.

 

Not trying to be a dick but that unit is 18k. What you think it will be worth the day after you buy it let alone 5 years down the road when ur kid is too big for the center seat and maybe ya have another kid ? I’m not trying to push Polaris but that’s what I have. Mine is a 1000xp ranger. Both front and back glass and roof cost me 1300 bucks from a Polaris dealer when they was running a promo where ya spent 1500 ya got 200 off. I have a kfi winch Mount and kfi plow which I love. I don’t know what prices are today but my accessories weren’t bad price wise. I’m sure the other big name brands have 3 seaters in the 18k price range. And that unit has a cvt transmission. Honda has had plenty issues with theirs over the years and I personally wouldn’t buy one but it’s not my money


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Not trying to be a dick but that unit is 18k. What you think it will be worth the day after you buy it let alone 5 years down the road when ur kid is too big for the center seat and maybe ya have another kid ? I’m not trying to push Polaris but that’s what I have. Mine is a 1000xp ranger. Both front and back glass and roof cost me 1300 bucks from a Polaris dealer when they was running a promo where ya spent 1500 ya got 200 off. I have a kfi winch Mount and kfi plow which I love. I don’t know what prices are today but my accessories weren’t bad price wise. I’m sure the other big name brands have 3 seaters in the 18k price range. And that unit has a cvt transmission. Honda has had plenty issues with theirs over the years and I personally wouldn’t buy one but it’s not my money


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A comparable polaris is also 18k+. Base model Ranger 1000 starts at $15k and that's no power steering, no winch, no glass/roof. Power steering is adding an extra $1.5k. So you're already knocking on the door for a base model 1000 with PS. Adding on even just the cheapest glass and roof and that's another $1k. So we're already within $500 of the intimidator which still had however many extras more. You add those onto the polaris and you're well over $20k.

I have always owned polaris ATVs, I like them but I also know the downfalls. And from what I see new stuff is much improved quality wise. It's still the same pitfalls, same cheap outs. So, I've a machine with a shit load of bells and whistles for $18k. And a polaris, base model with the the 4 bare necessities (not even including a winch) for almost the same price. That's a no brainer which one I'd choose in that situation. There's no comparison when you're comparing like models.

My problem still is, even with a ranger 570 full-size, it's the same situation, even just adding in PS, glass/roof it's knocking on 15K, for a 570. Still having to add my own winch, add my own X accessory. So I just spent 15K on a less machine and still have to add stuff. Where as, I can spend 20% more, get twice the machine with all the accessories. Again, not really a hard to make choice. Not even including the heavier duty specs of the intimidators.

Which then boils down to I don't know anything other than what I read online about the intimidatirs and the reccomdartion from Whiterhino to go with that shop for that brand. It's absolutely worth checking into even with the high price, which really isn't that high when you look back at the comparisons I just made.

Polaris you're paying for a name. I know this because I buy polaris. Used that is. Well, actually my 14 550 I bought new, and even then it was expensive, but it was the Browning LE EPS model with extra stuff, so reasons.

I'm still going to talk with the shop WR recommended. I definitely want to find out more on the intimidators. But not gonna lie, I really haven't ruled out the cfmoto yet either.

 

As an FYI, Karl is also a Polaris dealer. Interesting that they came to him to hock their product.
I like buying American if I can.

 

As an FYI, Karl is also a Polaris dealer. Interesting that they came to him to hock their product.
I like buying American if I can.

So do I https://www.polaris.com/en-us/proud/#:~:text=We've been a proud,to our vision and strategy.


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I forgot they were making them here. And I have a good friend who works for them so I should know. LOL

 

One of my employees just bought a Pioneer 1000 this past weekend. Looks decent enough to me, but I'd rather have a used Jeep. I'm happy because it keeps him from retiring because goddamn they aren't free.

Last time I looked at a Polaris it looked like a self-tap collated screw gun was given to a 12 year old hopped up on pop rocks and redbull.

 

And for clarity, I am not recommending the Intimidator, I am recommending Karl as a quality dealer. He sells both and I would trust his comments and suggestions. I don't know shit about sxs's.

 

Resale, or insurance value is the simple reason I wouldn't buy an "off-brand" unit.

Build quality on the Polaris is trash. Every single piece on my Maverick feels, fits, and looks nicer than on my RZR Turbo.

Like anything else, I'd stick to what you can get local and get parts for. Accesories aren't so much when you buy them away from the dealer. I have maybe 800 bucks into my roof, windshield, and rear window. Winch is an Amazon unit on a SuperAtv plate.

Dealers charge out the ass because it's only another 12 bucks a month on the note.

 

Any input on a Yamaha Viking? Found a 2014 for 10k nice shape machine.

That's the big issue with polaris, and why I struggle to justify buying a new one. Used I don't have a problem with cause at least mostly what's going to break has broken and been replaced. Though right now used prices are out the field. As stated with the ranger 1000 and general 1000 I found used.

For me, finding parts local has never really been an option, it's always been more reasonable to buy parts online. There's dealers on the area but the costs are 2x as much as just ordering.

Any input on a Yamaha Viking? Found a 2014 for 10k nice shape machine. Supposed to be good machines and the price is very doable even if I don't put a money down.

 

Razors are junk. They make too much power for the driveline and people beat em like a 1 ton rig. No comparison to a ranger in my book. My ranger is a 2018 and only thing I’ve done is the brake switch went bad and had to stomp the brake to start it and dealer gave me the switch for free cause it’s a known issue.
As far as the Viking, I’m sure it’s a fine unit, Yamaha been in the Sxs game for ever, I’d bet it’s a better option than a new off brand

Speaking of resale. My brother sold his 800 ranger crew that was 2010 or so in great shape that he paid 12k for new. He sold it for 8k in one hour on fb to a guy from Michigan that bought it to resale


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I would get all over that yamaha. They build good stuff. Search forums for normal issues and enjoy.

 

I love the Yamaha units, I still have 2 2001 quads on original belts, run like tops. We drove a Viking around recently and had no complaints, the bed/seats on the Pioneer are more preferable to us though.

I love the Honda units, and the Pioneer is a great value in my opinion, our next one will likely be a Pioneer.

Used prices are stupid, I sold my RZR for more than I paid for it 3 years ago. I can probably get close to or more than I paid for my Maverick today. It's like buying a Toyota lol, buy it new or super old and broke down.

 

Wow, did a quick look at fb marketplace. Rzr prices are high. I wonder if they are selling or if people are just hoping?

 

From what i've been looking at, they're selling. Been watching for a while and I see almost any of the ATVs and UTVs that come up for are gone within a couple days. There's a few that have been for sale for a while, but those are the junk ones, or the old 2wds that are priced high.

 

^^^^ X2

 

Now i'm hoping my sportsman sells lol

 

I paid like 16.2 out the door for my RZR in 16 and sold it for 18.5 with a roof, windshield, half doors, and winch plate in 19.

I paid 20.5 for our Maverick Sport XMR in 19, and could probably get it and some more today.

Polaris is still selling the same damn RZR's they've been selling since 14 for like 40% more money lol.

 

My big problem is that if I sell my RZR I have to buy something to clear my driveway

 

Ummmm............ snow shovel?

 

Unless you need to buy something right away, I'd sell now and sit on the cash for a few months. The world is going to look different after Labor Day.

 

I actually thought I'd have more contact from it, even though it's not even been a day. One guy on FB offered 4k. I declined.

My 6k just is too high even in this market?

 

That's the interesting thing about Craigslist before and Marketplace now. You can only go off current ads to price your stuff, but you have no idea if it sold or what it sold for.

A stupid Polaris 450 brand new is like 8k, I don't think asking 6 is crazy for an 800.

One thing of note though, I happened to be lucky enough to be riding a wave of inflation and rising prices, we're obviously teetering on the brink of all that demand leading to an excess of supply and crashing prices, same as every other market out there.

 

That's the interesting thing about Craigslist before and Marketplace now. You can only go off current ads to price your stuff, but you have no idea if it sold or what it sold for.

A stupid Polaris 450 brand new is like 8k, I don't think asking 6 is crazy for an 800.

One thing of note though, I happened to be lucky enough to be riding a wave of inflation and rising prices, we're obviously teetering on the brink of all that demand leading to an excess of supply and crashing prices, same as every other market out there.

Didn't think so, had a couple offers but decided not to take it right now, it might be different if I needed to sell the atv. It's more of a I want to sell it to put cash towards a side by side, but I also wont be upset if I don't sell it honestly.

 

I sold both my TJ and wife's Cherokee off marketplace within 3-5 days at our asking price - which I determined from marketplace.

 

My price could be high, but there really is not much available for used ATVs, like I said above. Everything seems to sell too quck.

There's a couple other Sportsmans, some newer that are 2-3,000 more expensive and some older that are close to my price. Took a ballpark figure and went on the high end. Ideally, I know what I want to get out of it so either way, it'll sell or it wont.

 

Still gotta give trail sport motors a call too