[Blazin79]

looking to remove my minispool in my dana 44 on my xj , how do i do that? pull whole carrier out? i m looking to go with differnet locker or open ... i dodnt like how the jeep steers with Minispool , any other advices?

 

[scorpio_vette]

pull axle shafts. remove cross pin. remove spool (or very very very similar to that. it'll become very self explanatory once you open the diff and pull the axle shafts. i don't think you need to pull the carrier or ring gear.

and then you can send me the spool when you're done.

 

[Blazin79]

i already have the shafts out and ALL, u can make me offer on that spool ... dont care much for it

 

[Haggar]

Depends on the gears. I believe 3.73 and lower, you'll have to pull the carrier out and remove the ring gear.

If you can slide the cross shaft out without it hitting the ring gear, you are ok. Usually on a dana 44, you'll need to pull it for 3.73 and lower gears.

 

[Blazin79]

i have 4.10 so u re saying i ll have pull the carrier

 

[Haggar]

Most likely, yes. Its not really that hard.

The cross shaft is going to be behind the ring gear, it won't slide out until you remove the ring gear. You need to pull the carrier to do this.

Assuming you have the axleshafts out, You:

1) mark both bearing caps up and down, side to side so you know how they go back
2) remove bearing caps
3) use a couple big prybars to pry out the diff
4) keep track of which spacers/washers came from which side
5) mark the ring gear on the carrier, then remove it.
6) Remove the minispool
7) Put it all back how you found it.

You might want to invest in some good punches, and a brass hammer, it makes things easier. You'll need a sharp punch to stamp the bearings, a pin punch to remove the roll pin in the cross shaft, and a brass hammer is useful getting the ring gear on and off.

 

[scorpio_vette]

or you can also use whiteout to mark the parts and their location, and a rubber mallet to get the ring gear off. maybe that'll safe you a couple bucks. i keep several bottles of whiteout in my toolboxes, cuz i use that stuff to mark EVERYTHING. LOL

i'll offer to be your friend. LOL ok seriously, i'm still broke. just like always. i was more throwing that out there to see if you might just give it away. LOL hey it was worth a try. you'd be surprised how much stuff you get for free just buy asking. LOL

 

[Cooter]

Most likely, yes. Its not really that hard.

The cross shaft is going to be behind the ring gear, it won't slide out until you remove the ring gear. You need to pull the carrier to do this.

Assuming you have the axleshafts out, You:

1) mark both bearing caps up and down, side to side so you know how they go back
2) remove bearing caps
3) use a couple big prybars to pry out the diff
4) keep track of which spacers/washers came from which side
5) mark the ring gear on the carrier, then remove it.
6) Remove the minispool
7) Put it all back how you found it.

You might want to invest in some good punches, and a brass hammer, it makes things easier. You'll need a sharp punch to stamp the bearings, a pin punch to remove the roll pin in the cross shaft, and a brass hammer is useful getting the ring gear on and off.

Usually the bearing caps on Dana diffs are already marked, and have a corresponding mark on the gasket surface for the cover.

 

[Cooter]

Most likely, yes. Its not really that hard.

The cross shaft is going to be behind the ring gear, it won't slide out until you remove the ring gear. You need to pull the carrier to do this.

Assuming you have the axleshafts out, You:

1) mark both bearing caps up and down, side to side so you know how they go back
2) remove bearing caps
3) use a couple big prybars to pry out the diff
4) keep track of which spacers/washers came from which side
5) mark the ring gear on the carrier, then remove it.
6) Remove the minispool
7) Put it all back how you found it.

You might want to invest in some good punches, and a brass hammer, it makes things easier. You'll need a sharp punch to stamp the bearings, a pin punch to remove the roll pin in the cross shaft, and a brass hammer is useful getting the ring gear on and off.

Usually yhe bearing caps on Dana diffs are already marked, and have a coesponding mark on the gasket surface for the cover.

Don't forget you will need a torque wrench for the bearing caps and ring install. (Locktight, too)

 

[Haggar]

Gotcha. Last time I did a dana 44 was 2002, I didn't remember marks on mine, so I marked them.

Also, putting the ring gear in the toaster oven at about 200 degrees may help it go on. (My service manual recommends a heated oil bath, but who has that...). If you are using the toaster oven in your house, not a garage slut, then wrap in paper towel, then tinfoil, so you don't stink it up...

 

[Cooter]

geez, a repost, and I'm not even a drinker...

 

[Blazin79]

seem like a lil more work than i thought .. i ll see what i can do here

 

[Blazin79]

i ll need some spec. on how much torque to get the ring gear back on? and the main caps?? anyone has that? mine re a waggy dana 44 up front i would say a 82'

 

[ajmorell]

It sounds like more than it really is. I have only personally torn apart one rear end, but as long as you put it back together the way it came apart you should be fine. Just take your time and try not to get too frustrated.

 

[Blazin79]

i got the carrier off and the gear ring off and i know there's usually a bolt holding the roll pin in the cross shaft? or do i just use pin punch and hit it out? i m hoping so cuz i dont see the bolt holding it and it seem like before someone tried to drill it out or something , is there any other tricks?

 

[Blazin79]

i got everything thing done , cept i need torque spec for the gear ring and the main caps.. can anyone tell me that?

 

[Rocky]

I would still mark the caps. For some odd reason when Bill did the 44 in my TJ the bearings caps were switched from side to side from the factory.

 

[scorpio_vette]

i wanna say the cap bolts are around 85ish foot pounds. but i don't remember the ring gear spec. wish i would have seen this while i was still at work.

 

[Blazin79]

still jneed gear ring torque spec???

 

[criminalhate]

http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html

Ring Gear Bolts

3/8" x 7/8" RH 55-60 FT#

3/8" x 3/4" RH 45-50 FT#

3/8" ALL LH 45-50 FT#

7/16" ALL 60-65 FT#

1/2" ALL 100-110 FT#

Carrier Cap Bolts

7/16" (5/8" head) 60-65 FT #

1/2" (3/4" head) 80-85 FT #


I googled it not sure if it's 100% accurate but sounds right.


More exact for the D44

Cover Bolt Ft. Lbs. 30-40
Pinion Brg. Preload In. Lbs 20-40
Pinion Nut Ft. Lbs. 200-220
Ring Gear Backlash .005-.008
Ring Gear Bolt to case Ft. Lbs. 45-60
Side Brg. Caps Ft. Lbs. 70-90