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It is a problem and just because we don't se it on the mainstream media day in and day out doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
When I find it, the 40% I'll post it for ya. See I don't have the ability to sit at a desk throughout the day and go between work and gl4x4. It seems you do. I 've got an idea, why don't you look around on conservative sites and see what you can dig up. You might surprise yourself.
Fortunately I'm good at multitasking. I won't hold my breath though.
For the 18th time, NO ONE IS SAYING IT ISN'T A PROBLEM. We're saying it's a miniscule issue compared to what you're claiming and so far you have yet to provide a shred of evidence to the contrary.

I'm glad you like to read the bible.
I did not say that. You're the poster child for the type of people who have completely turned me off to the prospect of organized religion. Fortunately you're in the minority. To make this extra clear, that's not me bashing religion, it's me bashing you and your bigoted closed minded mentality while you hide behind your faith to claim righteousness.

Problem is that if we interpret the bible how we think it should be then there lies the problem. It's not about how we see it but how God made it to benefit our lives according to his word.
So you honestly believe you're not interpreting it? Yeah ok.

All I see from the latest pile of links is that Loudoun County is apparently a pretty messed up place. You've done nothing to prove your case. You claim this widespread earth shattering plague of gayness with such confidence but yet again bring no solid evidence of your outlandish claims. There's something to be said for consistency, I guess.
 

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This is a great example of a slippery slope logical fallacy. IE an assumption that a simple mistake will lead to the worst case scenario. It's meant to be misleading to the reader and redirects the viewer away from the simple problem (the lack of notification to the parents in this case) and towards a presumably horrible future that is implied at the only possible outcome.

Should they have notified the parents, sure. That's the actual problem, not what's on the survey. If they had notified the parents and the parents allowed their kids (or didn't) to take the survey, would this still be an issue?

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Myself I don't see that as a mistake in not notifying the parents. It's what's on the survey and what they are asking is really none of the schools business. What are they collecting that data for? Personal sexual questions of minors. It's none of their business. Would you approve your kids taking a survey like this?
 

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Fortunately I'm good at multitasking. I won't hold my breath though.
For the 18th time, NO ONE IS SAYING IT ISN'T A PROBLEM. We're saying it's a miniscule issue compared to what you're claiming and so far you have yet to provide a shred of evidence to the contrary.


I did not say that. You're the poster child for the type of people who have completely turned me off to the prospect of organized religion. Fortunately you're in the minority. To make this extra clear, that's not me bashing religion, it's me bashing you and your bigoted closed minded mentality while you hide behind your faith to claim righteousness.


So you honestly believe you're not interpreting it? Yeah ok.


All I see from the latest pile of links is that Loudoun County is apparently a pretty messed up place. You've done nothing to prove your case. You claim this widespread earth shattering plague of gayness with such confidence but yet again bring no solid evidence of your outlandish claims. There's something to be said for consistency, I guess.
Who's we? I'm thinking you might want to take your own survey and ask parents if they think what school boards are doing is a problem.
I'm not into organized religion either. That would be catholisim, islam, buddisim, hindusim etc. Being a Christian is having a relationship with Christ. There is only one way to heaven and that is through Christ. All other religions are false. They will not save you.
 

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Myself I don't see that as a mistake in not notifying the parents. It's what's on the survey and what they are asking is really none of the schools business. What are they collecting that data for? Personal sexual questions of minors. It's none of their business. Would you approve your kids taking a survey like this?
I would hope that the data was recorded anonymously. I don't have a problem with collecting that type of data, but as a parent I would want to know if my child was being asked those type of questions. I remember being a teenager and my thinking if asked about that type of stuff would be "wait, you mean others my age are doing that stuff and leaving me out?"
 

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Who's we? I'm thinking you might want to take your own survey and ask parents if they think what school boards are doing is a problem.
I'm not into organized religion either. That would be catholisim, islam, buddisim, hindusim etc. Being a Christian is having a relationship with Christ. There is only one way to heaven and that is through Christ. All other religions are false. They will not save you.
I'm tempted to respond but I don't want this thread to turn into a discussion of religion.
 

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I would hope that the data was recorded anonymously. I don't have a problem with collecting that type of data, but as a parent I would want to know if my child was being asked those type of questions. I remember being a teenager and my thinking if asked about that type of stuff would be "wait, you mean others my age are doing that stuff and leaving me out?"
Sounds like both you and I agree with Aber on this one. If my underage child is being given a survey on social issues, I want to know about it - before it is given to them.
 

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I wish it was like in Walking Tall, and he could grab the AR and walk out of the court room with it. "This is mine!"
 
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Don't worry, I'm sure there's a waiting list of firearm manufacturers and tacticool gear shops wanting to make ads with him carrying their gear. He'll get all the free ARs he wants if he chooses to embrace his 15 minutes of conservative martyr fame.

For his sake I hope he tries to get off the radar ASAP, let society's short attention span move on to the next outrage, and try to start fresh with his life. Nothing good comes from this long term for him. While the right celebrates him, the left will be busy trying to crucify him. Best to avoid it all and not get Epsteined.
 

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Don't worry, I'm sure there's a waiting list of firearm manufacturers and tacticool gear shops wanting to make ads with him carrying their gear. He'll get all the free ARs he wants if he chooses to embrace his 15 minutes of conservative martyr fame.

For his sake I hope he tries to get off the radar ASAP, let society's short attention span move on to the next outrage, and try to start fresh with his life. Nothing good comes from this long term for him. While the right celebrates him, the left will be busy trying to crucify him. Best to avoid it all and not get Epsteined.
I fear people are going to try to hunt him down. Honestly, he is a candidate for a CPL but he is too young.
 

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I would hope that the data was recorded anonymously. I don't have a problem with collecting that type of data, but as a parent I would want to know if my child was being asked those type of questions. I remember being a teenager and my thinking if asked about that type of stuff would be "wait, you mean others my age are doing that stuff and leaving me out?"
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we would like to think it would be anonymous but I'm thinking, not
 

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Don't worry, I'm sure there's a waiting list of firearm manufacturers and tacticool gear shops wanting to make ads with him carrying their gear. He'll get all the free ARs he wants if he chooses to embrace his 15 minutes of conservative martyr fame.

For his sake I hope he tries to get off the radar ASAP, let society's short attention span move on to the next outrage, and try to start fresh with his life. Nothing good comes from this long term for him. While the right celebrates him, the left will be busy trying to crucify him. Best to avoid it all and not get Epsteined.
From what I heard is that he will be filing lawsuits against media outlets that defamed him as well as celebrities and Biden.
Remember Sandman? He is a multimillionaire from the people he sued and I did see that he is behind Kyle in his pursuit.
 

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I guess we'll just ignore the post above yours then? Because what he said is the exact reason no one else is talking about it, because it's not news. It's not a widespread issue, it's not a big problem, it's not a trend, it's not a tangible threat, it's right wing fear mongering click bait and you eat it up as this massive conspiracy to indoctrinate our youth into gay/trans culture. No one is claiming it doesn't exist, we're claiming it's such a small issue that and that it's nowhere near the levels of your outlandish claims. You still haven't posted a shred of evidence to support your ridiculous 40% claim BTW, I'd still love to see that "proof".

There's nothing wrong with reading the bible, the problems all lie in your interpretation of it because of who you are as a person and your inability to use any level of critical thought.
Ok I found one article on the 40% for you.
Nearly 40 Percent of U.S. Gen Zs, 30 Percent of Young Christians Identify as LGBTQ, Poll Shows (newsweek.com)
 

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Seriously? It's even worse than I thought.
Barna's poll is based on a sampling of 600 respondents representing Millennials weighted for factors such as geographic location, race and gender who took an average of 17 minutes each to answer 71 questions.

The poll didn't ask directly whether the respondent was gay or straight, asking instead to choose an answer to the question: "Thinking about your commitments, would you describe yourself as ...."

Six responses were allowed, with the one garnering the most "yes" answers (75 percent) among Millennials being: "Searching for purpose in your life," followed by 74 percent who answered: "Believe all religious faiths are of equal value."

"An American patriot" was next at 55 percent, followed by 54 percent who answered, "Often feel anxious, depressed or unsafe" and 52 percent who answered, "Deeply committed to practicing your faith."

"Prefer socialism to capitalism" was next at 48 percent and "LGBTQ" was last at 30 percent. The order is similar among the 18-24 demographic that has LGBTQ nine percentage points higher.
So this was the question they're basing this on off of an absurdly low sample size:

Question: Thinking about your commitments, would you describe yourself as ....
A) Searching for purpose in your life
B) Believe all religious faiths are of equal value
C) An American patriot
D) Deeply committed to practicing your faith
E) Prefer socialism to capitalism
F) LGBTQ

Why kind of nonsensical pants-on-head-retarded multiple choice question is that? But hey, I guess if you only read the headline it makes sense why you'd jump to that conclusion.
 
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