[whiterhino]

I went with a beam style. Note, pinion torque is to be measured without the seal in place.

 

[xj4life]

I plan on replacing the pinion seal so that's not a big deal.

Oh and I'm going to order up the crush sleeve eliminator even without checking what it already has. Chances are it doesn't have one, if it does I'll return the one I order. Should have thought about that before.

 

[xj4life]

Got my torque wrench and gave the pinion a spin last night. Fully assembled with oil seal and it read I guess...1 in-lb So I guess I'll have to tighten that up a little bit.

 

[whiterhino]

ummm yeah.

 

[xj4life]

Hopefully and educated guess on the crush eliminator length vs the current crush sleeve gets me a good number on my first shot....a guy can dream cant he

 

[xj4life]

No pictures to add but just felt like updating this post. Been working hard on the axles.

14 bolt is pretty much wrapped up for now: new seals, all the bearings looked good so I'm going to reuse them, reset the gears (pattern sucks but is what it is for used gears), Yukon grizzly locker, disc brake conversion, new upper link brackets that better match the theme of the build, had to modify the Barnes 4WD diff cover, shaved the housing....and then desided I wasnt comfortable with how thin the housing got so I fab'd up a skid plate that smooths out the bottom and added back some thickness.

05+ front 60 I pulled everything from the diff, all the bearings, races, seals, etc. Pulled the 4.10 pinion and ring gear from my mid-80s 60 and working on getting them prepped to go in the 05+. Next week I should be getting the 05+ put back together: all new bearings, seals, and Spartan locker.

 

[xj4life]

I'm about 4 hours in to chasing my tail try to set the gears on the 60 and already hate Dana axles. About ready to say f it and build a 14 bolt front

 

[green50gt]

I wouldnt know anything about the struggle you face. Carry on.

 

[xj4life]

I wouldnt know anything about the struggle you face. Carry on.

Neither did I until about two days ago Always been intimidated by setting gears so I've avoided up until now. Decided it was time to concur my fear. I'll get it figured out eventually, I always do.

 

[green50gt]

Neither did I until about two days ago Always been intimidated by setting gears so I've avoided up until now. Decided it was time to concur my fear. I'll get it figured out eventually, I always do.

Well, I more meant one ton axles

 

[xj4life]

Came across an oddity last night. This is my first time messing with a 14bolt so not sure if this is normal or not. Was trying to install passenger side axle shaft and was struggling. Looked down the tube and looked like the locker was offset in the carrier. Odd. Pulled the carrier and it looks like what I was seeing was actually an offset in the casting of carrier. Hard to convey this in pictures but lets try.

Red surface is what would be inline with the splines. Green surface is set back from that but its not concentric with the red surface. Almost like the casting was offset. Is this normal?

 

[Plato2k5]

I cannot help you with that question. When I looked down mine, I did not see anything that resembles what you are seeing.

 

[xj4life]

Yeah who knows. I was able to get the shaft in on Sunday but took me a bit to find the hole.... I've never run a 14 bolt before so not sure if it was me being a newbie or what. Run it and see what happens.

After my intital bout with the 60 I decided to buy setup bearings. Excellent decision on my part 😁 Also loosened up the ID on my outer pinion bearing so it wasnt so hard to get on and off. Those two things helped a ton and I think I got the BL and pattern about is good as its going to get.

 

[green50gt]

As I mentioned I've never had wontons - well, not under a Jeep/Buggy thing anyway. But I cant imagine it being off like that is going to be good for it? I feel like thats an instabind on the shaft?

 

[aber61]

As I mentioned I've never had wontons - well, not under a Jeep/Buggy thing anyway. But I cant imagine it being off like that is going to be good for it? I feel like thats an instabind on the shaft?

I get my wontons from the Chinese restaurant down the street.

 

[bbaXJ]

As I mentioned I've never had wontons - well, not under a Jeep/Buggy thing anyway. But I cant imagine it being off like that is going to be good for it? I feel like thats an instabind on the shaft?

It's probably just shitty casting quality. Sand casting is not a precise process and there's probably just a flaw on the ID of the carrier so it's not concentric to the secondary machining on the rest of it. The entire major diameter of the splines is visible in the locker so it doesn't look like any bind will happen. Definitely less clearance than would be ideal, but it should be fine, especially with a locker that gets a lot less relative rotation of the shafts to the carrier; typically they spin consistently together. Especially on a 14 bolt that are known for having very "tight" lockers.

 

[feva4u]

It's probably just shitty casting quality. Sand casting is not a precise process and there's probably just a flaw on the ID of the carrier so it's not concentric to the secondary machining on the rest of it. The entire major diameter of the splines is visible in the locker so it doesn't look like any bind will happen. Definitely less clearance than would be ideal, but it should be fine, especially with a locker that gets a lot less relative rotation of the shafts to the carrier; typically they spin consistently together. Especially on a 14 bolt that are known for having very "tight" lockers.

This^, non clean up at the secondary operation. If it fits, it ships!

 

[whiterhino]

^^ yep

 

[Lousypirate]

It's probably just shitty casting quality. Sand casting is not a precise process and there's probably just a flaw on the ID of the carrier so it's not concentric to the secondary machining on the rest of it. The entire major diameter of the splines is visible in the locker so it doesn't look like any bind will happen. Definitely less clearance than would be ideal, but it should be fine, especially with a locker that gets a lot less relative rotation of the shafts to the carrier; typically they spin consistently together. Especially on a 14 bolt that are known for having very "tight" lockers.

That is most likely a core shift. They have most surfaces machined, so they get close to near net shape and send it. non critical area allows for more variation, which is why it didn't clean up.

 

[xj4life]

Both axles are just about wrapped up in terms of their rebuilds. Took longer than I expected but I learned a lot so happy about that. Ordered up some American Iron outer knuckles and their ball joint deletes so that I can get the steering finalized. While I'm waiting on that stuff to show up I'll get the hydro ram mount built up on the 60. Will be nice to do some metal fabrication for a change Once that's all done time to tear into my 4.0 and see why the crank shaft has a ton of end play.