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For those that don't know, gotrocksinhishead started a new business. This is truly funny.

ONE OFF FABRICATION BASH TRHREAD - JkOwners.com - The Community for Jeep JK 4x4 Owners


This one gets funny on page two:
2 Track Minds Offroad is new to JK owners - JkOwners.com - The Community for Jeep JK 4x4 Owners


In this one, I think he actually reused 2TM's pictures
JK ARB & VIAIR Compressor Brackets - JkOwners.com - The Community for Jeep JK 4x4 Owners

I love it when good things happen to good people. I'm joining JK owners I think. I've got lots of links and pictures to share with the membership over there. Chop's a really good guy (Now that he's not the competition anyway :teehee: ), and this is really eating him up.
 

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I could care less who starts a new venture, everyones gotta make a living. But what is really shitty is going around saying everything is "patent pending" and threatening to sue over shit. Camo on pirate posted some links about the fines applied to companies who falsely sell their products as patent pending while knowing they are not. He can simply show the paper work involved if it is true and settle it all, but I'm sure he won't. Just like his exo-cage I suppose.
Actually Jason, that bracket would cost me about $4 to make and I'll sell them to Unlimited for $10 delivered if you want. I'll drop of a dozen next week ok? :sonicjay:
 

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Wow, that's pretty shady.
he got the patent pending cause i messed up and gave him the cad file. So that was my fault i trusted him do i regret it yes but i learned a lesson. i was broke needed a job i still never got a job but i did a lot of driving haha i still dont think i will ever get anything out of him for the so called purchase of designs. lol i wish him the best of luck in this industry. and im sure if he ever does get a shop well we will see how that goes. and i have to leave it at that. if anyone wants to know more about me or what ever PM me and i will explain its a very long story.
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Chop, if that's you as 2TM over on jkowners, good luck to ya. In thinking about it, if you can prove that the CAD file was done by you (timestamps, other proof) and that you didn't sell it, I believe you can go after his patent application.

I don't think his patent can be valid for this reason: you were selling the same bracket and have proof of it by the Jkowners web site. From my understanding in working with patents at work (engineer here, not lawyer); Once it hits production, you can't apply for a patent. Unless he's made improvements on the product, he can't patent it.

Also, if you didn't sell him the drawing with an exclusive rights agreement, then there's nothing saying you can't sell it to somebody else. It's pretty much un-patentable at this point, but that also means that anybody can make and sell them.

Good luck.
 

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yeah that was me. i trusted him and im pissed at myself cause. and trust me i learned my lesson. but like i said it can always be redesigned thats for sure.
 

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Looks like Anthony is attention starved again

Someone who is a member over there should link all the fun baconpockets threads
 

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Once it is supplied to the public, it is very hard to get a patent. There are time frame limitations and if you can prove it was under development, the time can be extended. I believe that if you have sold it longer than one year prior to an application, you're hosed anyway.

Jason, have you sold any of these brackets to the general public? How long ago? Quite honestly, this may be a dead issue and Anthony has spent a ton of money for nothing. Either way, he's once again proving to be a d-bag.
 

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Come on, he is a real stand up guy.














:sonicjay:

I have had zero interactions with him nor do I care to. I have been around long enough to see his antics time and time again.
 

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Once it is supplied to the public, it is very hard to get a patent. There are time frame limitations and if you can prove it was under development, the time can be extended. I believe that if you have sold it longer than one year prior to an application, you're hosed anyway.

Jason, have you sold any of these brackets to the general public? How long ago? Quite honestly, this may be a dead issue and Anthony has spent a ton of money for nothing. Either way, he's once again proving to be a d-bag.
If you go through all the Pirate threads there are some guys that deal with the patent process every day and try to explain it to him but who knows if he gets it or not. Should be a good day never the less. :sonicjay:
 

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You have to have the application filed before it gets viewed by anyone other than "internal".

Basically, without even going into it... he would have had to have that patent filed about a year ago or before anyone else beat him to market. It's BS.... And all you would have to do is make it mount to something other than the brake booster and you'd get around any issues. You could also probably just call it a flower pot holder and not have patent issues.... if anything is even pending. Someone look up everything filed by him, it could get interesting! :sonicjay:
 

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We have several patents here and actually have a couple pending right now. Each circumstance seems to be a little different. In a perfect world, you should never show anything to Joe Public before an application. If you do, there is a time frame. But no matter what, if anyone has duplicated it prior to your application, you're pretty much hosed. Unless there's a shit load of money to be made, you're usually better off to try to saturate the market quickly & hope that no one else thinks it's worth the competition. I can't picture the returns on a simple bracket to be worth the patent money.
 

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So he's just doing it to be an ass?
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that you have to sell a lot of $50 brackets with a decent profit to get a return on $5K + of patent fees, tooling etc. Then........ if someone copies it anyway, you have to spend a ton of money to go after them. Not to mention, like 95geo said, a simple change & the patent is voided anyway.


For Chop, it was a good deal to make these for his local customers. To go nationwide may not be all that lucrative.

Jason, I don't know anything about it and could be all wet.:confused:
 

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No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that you have to sell a lot of $50 brackets with a decent profit to get a return on $5K + of patent fees, tooling etc. Then........ if someone copies it anyway, you have to spend a ton of money to go after them. Not to mention, like 95geo said, a simple change & the patent is voided anyway.


For Chop, it was a good deal to make these for his local customers. To go nationwide may not be all that lucrative.

Jason, I don't know anything about it and could be all wet.:confused:
Sounds like a lot of work for something that can be voided so easily.
 
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