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I can see why you think of Trump the way you do. You only listen to the opinions from left wing talking heads. I remember seeing old clips from the 80"s of Trump talking with I think it was Barbara Walters and she asked him about running for president and he said something like if the country was going down hill in such a way he would run. Not exactly what he said but if you googled it i'm sure you could find it. Nothing he said in the interview csme close to him saying he wanted to create a legacy for himself.
Trump did get a very slow and sluggish economy up and running to a point that we as a nation has never been before. No other president has done what he has done.
Henry Kissinger just wrote a great piece about Trump. If I can find it and copy it here I will.
If Biden was to win which I dont think he would but we've seen the dems stuff ballots in thier favor before. We will never see a republican majority again. They will add an addition 2 to the supreme court, they will do away with the filibuster rule and ram everything through they want. The green new deal will become a reality. Socilaized medicine will be here and the complete take over of the education system will be their to indoctrinate the kids from preschool through to university. Taking away the tax breaks that we all got under Trump. Energy independence will be a thing of the past. We will be buying oil from the mid east at 4 bucks a gallon and jobs will be sent back over seas. No more made in America. Democrats destroy everything they touch and this country is next. We just need to look at Obama did and then it will be ramped up 10 fold
Yawn.... Same old response. Do you actually write a new one every time or is this a cut and paste? (and what happened to our unique smilies, I need the "beating a dead horse" one here.)

No, once again, I do not watch any talking heads, left or right. My opinion of Trump comes from listen to what hes says, reading about what he does, and forming my own opinion. You should try it sometime.
Even Trump is not so vain ot come out and say that he wants to have his face carved into the side of a mountain, but it's obvious to me, given his words and actions, that that is what he wants.
You are correct that the economy that Obama handed Trump was something that the nation had never seen before. It was the start of the longest period of continuous economic expansion in our nations history. I'm not sure what you think that Trump did that was so unique. plenty of presidents have inherited expanding economies and kept them expanding.

I don't know why you think the Republican party is so weak that they will never regain power once they lose it. Likely the next 2 supreme court replacements will be liberals, so the current court makeup won't change.

The rest is just typical doom and gloom from the right. Nothing new here.
 

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Obama did hand Trump a slumping economy and it only took off as Trump got into office. I kinda wonder why the markets never hit record highs while Barry was president. It was consumer confidence, something the people didn't have with obama. The markets fell when Obama got in and that was no fault of his but it should have rebounded if he had taken corrective measures. But it didn't, It just chugged along.
So do you think what Biden and the left want to do if they get in will be good for the country or it will be an economic disaster?
 

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Mr. Special Snowflake.
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Obama did hand Trump a slumping economy and it only took off as Trump got into office. I kinda wonder why the markets never hit record highs while Barry was president. It was consumer confidence, something the people didn't have with obama. The markets fell when Obama got in and that was no fault of his but it should have rebounded if he had taken corrective measures. But it didn't, It just chugged along.
So do you think what Biden and the left want to do if they get in will be good for the country or it will be an economic disaster?
Again, the same old lies. The markets did rebound under Obama, Maybe not as quickly as your favorite talking head thought it should, but it did. And the markets certainly did hit record highs under Obama, many times, but he didn't feel the need to post on twitter about it, and your talking head apparently didn't feel the need to tell you about it.

There is only one way to prevent economic disaster, and that is to end the pandemic. That needs to be the focus, then needs to be where we put all of our resources. Not stimulus checks or tax breaks or any other nonsense. Until the pandemic is over, the economy is going no where.
 

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Again, the same old lies. The markets did rebound under Obama, Maybe not as quickly as your favorite talking head thought it should, but it did. And the markets certainly did hit record highs under Obama, many times, but he didn't feel the need to post on twitter about it, and your talking head apparently didn't feel the need to tell you about it.

There is only one way to prevent economic disaster, and that is to end the pandemic. That needs to be the focus, then needs to be where we put all of our resources. Not stimulus checks or tax breaks or any other nonsense. Until the pandemic is over, the economy is going no where.
I don't recall the markets hitting any all time records under Barry's time in office. Things did pick up after the recession which is supposed to happen. It could only go up. I do remember Obama spending a ton in his quantive easing. Dumping a crap load of cash into the economy that really didn't take off as you'd think. I'd like to know who that stimulus helped, I'm thinking wall street.
Even at Trump's worst the market we are at barry's best and that was after three years of the greatest economy this country has ever seen.
I'd like to know how we are suppose to defeat a virus. They have flu's every year which we have vaccines for and 50 to 60 thousand people a year from that. Not to mention the common cold which in the elderly can turn into pneumonia which is deadly. It would be great if this bug would go away like the mers and sars. We don't really hear about those anymore. Even when they were here the media and politicians never made a big deal about them. Even though h1n1 infected more than 60 million people and we never required masks and nor shut down the country. Makes me think it has plenty to do with making Trump look bad to convince people to vote for Sleepy Joe.
 

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Here, I drew you a picture.

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I drew one as well. Actually I just copied and pasted. But what we see is during obama years the markets did increase I never said that the markets tanked. They came close right after he took office. Then we see things slowly creep up and slide down.
When Trump was elected the market took off like a rocket ship and would still be going up if it weren't for china releasing corona.
It seems kinda fishy that throughout his first term the dems tried everything they could to destroy trump and remove him from office. they even said themselves that he needs to go. Nothing worked until corona came along and even with that the markets are climbing up after what happened. That tells me there is a consumer confidence with this man that people feel safe with at the helm.
If Biden wins we will see al the gains disappear and out taxes go up dramatically to pay for AOC and her proposed green new deal which Biden said he would embrace at the cost of 7 trillion dollars. Biden also said beto would be the new gun czar to work at taking down our second amendment.
Coal plants will be no more and he as much said that he would follow Hillary's plan to remove them and push forward to zero emissions as soon as 2030. Bye bye to the gas engine, no more 4 wheeling, unless they make them electric.
 

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Except you got today's date wrong. Yes, the markets did great in Trump's first year. Not so much his second year. a year after this was make the Dow was at. 25046. My theory that the first year was about the expectations people had for Trump, the second year was about the reality.

I won't comment on any stupid conspiracy theory about Covid.

I think you're overestimating Biden's ability to accomplish anything.
 

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Except you got today's date wrong. Yes, the markets did great in Trump's first year. Not so much his second year. a year after this was make the Dow was at. 25046. My theory that the first year was about the expectations people had for Trump, the second year was about the reality.

I won't comment on any stupid conspiracy theory about Covid.

I think you're overestimating Biden's ability to accomplish anything.
Biden is being controlled by others around him. He has trouble putting two sentences together without making it apparent that he has something wrong with his mind. Which is really sad if you think about it. His party has nobody else that can run for president that could led this country so they prop up an old man with mental decline and make him the puppet. who would be really running things and calling the shots? Obama or Hillary from behind the curtain? Will there be presidential debates shortly or will they attempt to get out of it? the American people have a right to see the two of these people debating on a stage for all to see them react and respond under scrutiny from questioning about how they would handle situations and what their plan is for the country.

Far left AOC and Bernie want to tear down the capitalistic system that created the wealth for everyone in this country. What they are pushing for is a socialism that will take away the wealth from everybody except the ones who are pulling the strings.

The only thing standing in between the American people and socialism is Donald Trump.
The stock markets did great until the country was forced to shut down because of corona. I don' really see a conspiracy so to say about corona but I do see the dems using it to their advantage, "Don't let a crisis go to waste", I recall that phrase being used many times from the left.
 

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I still have less in my 401k than I did a year ago. In fact, it has barely beat inflation as compared two years ago. A significant portion of the S&P and Dow indexes are made of a very small number of companies. If you look at the real stock market it doesn't look so rosy. Honestly, take a look at the indexes and see their components.

I don't think Trump can debate. He can rant, he can fire off a 14-liner that could have been a one-liner. A debate? No, I think those days are behind him. He's as eloquent as a turd that someone tried to polish with 40 grit sandpaper.

Biden is an idiot. He'll probably destroy Trump in a debate, especially if he goes off-script, but then we'll realize he's just as much of an idiot as Trump.

Biden is keeping his mouth shut. He need not participate in the three ring circus sideshow of freaks that is the Trump posse. Nobody wants us to realize that all we have to choose from in the circus is a wounded elephant, a gaggle of monkeys slinging shit, and two drunk carnies in the corner that pissed themselves.

I might write in Helen Keller. Even though she's dead. She at least had courage. Probably still has more than either of them.

Maybe we should ask Obama back. At least we know his worst.
 

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Obama is not far enough left for what's coming.
I don't think you have been attention to what we are in store for if Biden wins. He has said he supports everything that Bernie was calling for and AOC as well. if you dont know what they stand for I would encourage you to go back and listen to what their version of America should be. Like I said the only thing stopping a rush to the border is what Trump did. The only thing stopping massive tax increases is Trump. The only thing stopping the green new deal is Trump. Because he is against everything they want.
Put your hate aside and look at what is good that the left want for this country. I don't think you can name one thing. Unless you are for lawlessness rioting and the tearing down of our history.
Obama started the division and Trump exposed the hate within the hearts of what's going on now by draining the swamp. They are fighting for their very existence. Unless you approve of the corruption in politics in America.
If you think things will get better under a different admin then you are mistaken. If Trump wins they will fight against him even more than they are now. Including the media which is really controlling what's happening.
 

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This is like watching 2 tards kicking the shit out of each other in the resource room in high school. They will never accomplish what they want but it is fun to watch.




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This is like watching 2 tards kicking the shit out of each other in the resource room in high school. They will never accomplish what they want but it is fun to watch.




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Are you talking about us or Trump and Biden. Either way I agree.
 

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Brewmenn no matter how many times you hit him he is still going to like vanilla pudding and no matter what Wrath says Brewmenn will always like his Chocolate pudding.

Now what flavor of pop-tarts are the best?



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I used to like Poptarts, too much sugar for me now.
 
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