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There seem to be an awful lot of saints on this thread. I'm quite sure he isn't the first one of us to stretch the limits of legal driving in Michigan (did you break the speed limit on your way into work/school today? I did.). I am not condoning the breaking of laws that get more of our land taken away by enviro-nazis, but we were all young and new to off roading once. Chide him once and get on with helping the guy. Letting him get impounded won't teach him anything other than the fact that Jenny won't even say thank you when she emptys his wallet. He made a fair offering of compensation that I'd accept if I were in the Flint area today.
I am in no danger of losing access to the paved roads in Michigan in the event that I am caught speeding. However, illegally trespassing off-road does increase the chances of us losing what little legal wheeling we have left in this state. Yes, we probably have all broken the laws and wheeled illegally. But, the point is that unless we as a group educate ourselves and those that are new or unaware, nobody else is going to do it. If we don't police ourselves, the DNR will do it and will bend over to the environmental lobby and close even more lands to us.
 
I am in no danger of losing access to the paved roads in Michigan in the event that I am caught speeding. However, illegally trespassing off-road does increase the chances of us losing what little legal wheeling we have left in this state. Yes, we probably have all broken the laws and wheeled illegally. But, the point is that unless we as a group educate ourselves and those that are new or unaware, nobody else is going to do it. If we don't police ourselves, the DNR will do it and will bend over to the environmental lobby and close even more lands to us.
Politically I am on your side. But I think the problem is we are always on the defensive. These enviromentalists don't really care what trails you use. They don't like what you do and how you do it. It's like the anti-hunting crowd. They don't care if it's legal, their jihad is to hamper you every way they can. They don't compromise, we do. They look at our 4x4s on the highway like ecological denizens that should have been made extinct long ago. While small wooded lots where you get popped for poaching a trail today will be sold at auction by DNR tomorrow for a strip mall or Super Kroger/meijer/K MART.


Note: No wetlands were harmed or destroyed in the making of this post.
 
I am in no danger of losing access to the paved roads in Michigan in the event that I am caught speeding. However, illegally trespassing off-road does increase the chances of us losing what little legal wheeling we have left in this state. Yes, we probably have all broken the laws and wheeled illegally. But, the point is that unless we as a group educate ourselves and those that are new or unaware, nobody else is going to do it. If we don't police ourselves, the DNR will do it and will bend over to the environmental lobby and close even more lands to us.
So should we hypocritically insult and make a mockery of someone who may not have known the difference?
 
...........I am not condoning the breaking of laws that get more of our land taken away by enviro-nazis, but we were all young and new to off roading once........ ...... Letting him get impounded won't teach him anything other than the fact that Jenny won't even say thank you when she emptys his wallet. He made a fair offering of compensation that I'd accept if I were in the Flint area today.
So your against Illegal wheeling unless you get paid to do it while recovering someone? And you don't condone breaking the ORV laws, but don't want the DNR to catch people breaking them and enforce those laws. That makes sense
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Is this an illegal mudhole?
Unfortunately yes, But theres no cops over here or DNR. Its the boonies.
Most the time you dont see DNR out here, But I mean there is times ive had them chase me on my three wheeler once, That wheeler was a beast though for what it was lol. And matter of fact I just seen DNR when i looked outside my window.
He admits he knew this was an illegal area and that he's run from the DNR before while there. Why go back there if you know it's illegal and have been chased before??? Obviously he hasn't learned and an impound/fine might hit home a little better.
 
someone go take pics of this guy.

I have wheeled illegally before. But don't anymore as I have read the fines/laws. That and my jeep is usually not in a running state haha
 
So should we hypocritically insult and make a mockery of someone who may not have known the difference?
you mean making a mockery of the guy who's posting that hes ran from the DNR before?

A guy who posted up that he knew he was illegally wheeling?


Whats the guidelines for making a mockery of somebody on this site? I'm curious.
 
I don't know WHY you'd go back to a place where you KNOW DNR travel frequently. Your just setting yourself up for bad things to come.
 
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