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Actually the black Patagonias are a great rock tire.
I don't doubt it, I just have a (probably) unreasonable hatred for those tires. Mostly because of a certain mall crawler Jeep group that thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread, stemming primarily from 2 people who are essentially sponsored by them and rave about their performance. I'm certainly not a tire expert but I know enough to be dangerous, and that tread design can't possible work as well as they claim, especially in the conditions they claim its prowess in. A sticky is an entirely different animal and I don't doubt that it works decent in that case.
 

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LCG HIJKLMNOP
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It's been 8 or so years since I've used this thing. It took me a while to remember what I was doing and I still missed my centerline by an inch.

My top is destroyed but it keeps the garbage off me so I'm trying to at least keep it as an option with the cage. At the end of the day I didn't want to put a bar right in front of kids faces, but that was really the only reasonable place to go with my seatbelt bar that allows for a harness on the passenger seat in the future. I could have done some funky stuff to keep the passenger side open but it's all a compromise at the end of the day. The good news is that this isn't my final cage so if I don't like it, I can discuss options with Metrofab to do it differently on the next one.



At some point in the last outing I hit something pretty hard. It bent the corner, split the weld on the tub and pinched the top to the tub. Not a big deal except the waterproof cover I have for future winter wheeling/ice creaming need to use that area. I guess I'm going into the body work business for a couple hours at some point in the future. :sonicjay:
 

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I have really struggled wheeling hard and keeping my tub clean enough to install a soft top. It's a hard balance. re the top, one of the best things I ever did was go to an aluminum top for hard wheeling.
 

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LCG HIJKLMNOP
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The aluminum top seems like a good way to go. Nothing coming in that way(Rocks, trees, mud). Also seals up where most of the holes in my factory top are :teehee:
 

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LCG HIJKLMNOP
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Busted out the CAD last night, need to source some aluminum and figure out what gauges I want so I can finish that up. Would have bought one but all the panels I see for sale have too many holes in them.


 

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LCG HIJKLMNOP
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I hate "routine" maintenance.

Cleaning up this mess. When I flopped, the trans vent dumped fluid all over my relays. My fault for having them there. Attempting to unfux the wiring is fun.

Took a 2x4 to the tub, fixedish the dent so the top should hold again.
Still looking for a relay/fuse/waterproof panel that I will work to move everything into the cab but I really don't want a main power wire running through the firewall so I'm going to think about that a little.
 

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I hate "routine" maintenance.

Cleaning up this mess. When I flopped, the trans vent dumped fluid all over my relays. My fault for having them there. Attempting to unfux the wiring is fun.

Took a 2x4 to the tub, fixedish the dent so the top should hold again.
Still looking for a relay/fuse/waterproof panel that I will work to move everything into the cab but I really don't want a main power wire running through the firewall so I'm going to think about that a little.
Got room for the battery in the cab?

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LCG HIJKLMNOP
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Sometimes the simple solution is the best........not the easiest. Had to depin a PDC at LKQ in 32 degree weather to get the wiring I need. Moving all but my fans into the remaining Jeep PDC that's already under the hood. Might as well use what's there.
 

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I've said it before, but I will say it again. I admire you guys who have the skills / patience to do wiring. That sh*t would drive me nuts!
 

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LCG HIJKLMNOP
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Credit to the wiring people, this shit sucks. I rewired the starter relay to function properly. Next is to re-purpose the rear defrost relay for my trans fan. Then I have to add pins to add another "not used" portion for my relay for lights. Should end up with everything other than coolant fans in the factory PDM. I definitely have wiring issues in the stock harness somewhere. I have power coming back in wires I shouldn't in the PDM so I've been grounding them to blow fuses to find where it's feeding from. :sonicjay: I need to buy more fuses haha.


I haven't figured out how to add the connector for the power side of this fuse area. I pulled wires at the junkyard to add on the fused side, but the other side is a solid bar and I'm not sure it's possible to add. If that's the case, I have to look through those diagrams and see where they're sending power to see if I can steal for my relays I'm adding. My TJ didn't have ABS so that's 3 circuits that aren't pinned from the factory that I could have stolen power from. No big deal, just work. If I wasn't "essential", I'd have plenty of time......:usa:
 

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LCG HIJKLMNOP
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Having fun yet? The spade connectors are for the grounds activating the relays coming from the switches in cab.


For fans, I bought 80A viair solenoids and will wire it so the relay is only controlling grounds. The whole point of the relay/solenoid setup is to shut the low speed fan off when the high speed fan is activated. If you don't do that, the fan runs at a reduced output and eventually burns up. The original setup sent all power through multiple relays. My new diagram only uses the relay for ground control for the solenoids. Hopefully that puts an end to any Taurus fan issues. My old setup was fine until trans fluid dumped all over it. That didn't do it any favors. Hoping this setup is fluid proof. My vent for my 60e was the culprit. I'm looking into changing that up a little bit to keep that from happening again as well.

Relay setup for those unfamiliar:


Wiring for solenoids, replace relay on right with solenoid like the left side. I didn't revise, you should be able to figure it out haha.

~$50 for parts, some wiring required.


Have a few more things to tie up in the PDC, then I can get that back in, get my fan setup installed and move back to the interior. I haven't had nearly as much time to work on this as what I want. I work for work out of the shop 3 days a week. By the time my normal day is over, I'm ready to be done for the day. I thought I would be able to do a little bit here an there all day long and have it add up to alot but it just hasn't happened. Wiring for me takes all my attention because I suck at it so I need blocked set of time to do it and I'm not taking the time :sonicjay:
 

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LCG HIJKLMNOP
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Oops. Mental note, when the steering doesn't work, leave it in the parking lot. Time for a new lots of stuff :sonicjay:
 
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