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Old School
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Aside from the usual Facebook BS about him being 28, and from California, there's something about him that just seems.... off. It seems to me that he's being coached.

So, GL politcal people, is David Hogg a genuine student activist, or a 'useful idiot'?
 

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Aside from the usual Facebook BS about him being 28, and from California, there's something about him that just seems.... off. It seems to me that he's being coached.

So, GL politcal people, is David Hogg a genuine student activist, or a 'useful idiot'?
Based on what I've seen recently, useful idiot.... I agree with you 100% that something seems off with him....
 

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FAWK YEAH!!
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He concerns me. His rhetoric and the "following" he's gaining I find deeply concerning. He clearly isn't smart enough to do this stuff on his own, so he's obviously being coached and backed by bigger players behind the scenes.
 

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He's a useful idoit, that was plain to me from the beginning. Not saying that I believe any of the hype that he is a "fake" student, but do believe that he is being coached and led by other powers.
 

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The general rule is 'follow the money'.... i.e. who is going to benefit from it?

Obviously, the left will gain in their goal of gun control, but there is also the new rhetoric of "we will vote you out!". While I am all for the process of voting for candidates that closely match your views, I damn well know that at 18 my political views were not fully formed. I was raised in a Democratic household, but I also knew that I did not agree with everything the Democrats promoted.

I really feel that the left has insecurities in their platform, cracks that go deeper than the issues the Republicans are dealing with. Both sides have their moments of hypocrisy, but the left lately seems to be far more desperate for support. People are seeing through the usual 'free stuff' message, and they need a different core value. Indoctrinating the young before they fully comprehend the world seems to be the angle of attack they are using.
 

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The general rule is 'follow the money'.... i.e. who is going to benefit from it?

Obviously, the left will gain in there goal of gun control, but there is also the new rhetoric of "we will vote you out!". While I am all for the process of voting for candidates that closely match your views, I damn well know that at 18 my political views were not fully formed. I was raised in a Democratic household, but I also knew that I did not agree with everything the Democrats promoted.

I really feel that the left has insecurities in their platform, cracks that go deeper than the issues the Republicans are dealing with. Both sides have their moments of hypocrisy, but the left lately seems to be far more desperate for support. People are seeing through the usual 'free stuff' message, and they need a different core value. Indoctrinating the young before they fully comprehend the world seems to be the angle of attack they are using.
Which is fawking sick! IMHO
 

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Well funded media supported gun control zealots were staged, ready to respond anywhere in the country. They are running like a FEMA type 1 incident management team, poised to hit the ground running and set the anti gun, anti NRA, anti RKBA narrative, and keep it focused. They are well funded and connected, hardly “grass roots”.
Hogg is their new media darling.


https://canadafreepress.com/article/who-runs-march-for-our-lives?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=march_for_our_lives_upstaged_by_big_story_daniels&utm_term=2018-03-25
 

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Since this kid being the spokesman for gun control the NRA new memberships and gun sales have soared.
So he's a good salesman for the Second Amendment but not so good for the liberal cause. He's a kid who people see he is not doing this alone. Like BlooMule stated he's being coached.
What concerns me is this next generation and how they think that they are actually deserving of stuff. They think socialism is the way to go. Maybe a few months in a socialist country will grow them some brain cells cause their teachers are not helping them in that department.

Wondering if anyone else is seeing a paradigm shift occurring here?
Children, who cannot even vote, are protesting the adults rights to do so.
The government indoctrination has children telling their parents what to do. These kids are not being educated, they are being trained.
 

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The government indoctrination has children telling their parents what to do. These kids are not being educated, they are being trained.
Seems like something that's happened almost every generation that I can remember. Teenagers think they're smart and know more than their parents so they try and force change. They get older and realize they were idiots. Then the next generation does the same. We just have a live feed of it now and see the BS that's going on everywhere we look.
 

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I think the amount the media is covering it and the number of people that are willing to march are 2 different things.

I talked some parents with HS kids, and most were coached into participating by staff, and most just wanted to get out of class. They didn't do it during lunch or when it would impact their life.
 

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The walk out during school thing, I'm proud to say my 15 yr old sat in his class while over half his class walked out. His choice.


I asked him why. He told me everyone he knew was doing it to goof off and get out of class. He said he would of participated had it been solely for honoring the students who lost their lives. But because the media twisted it into a gun control thing, he wanted no part of it.
 

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The walk out during school thing, I'm proud to say my 15 yr old sat in his class while over half his class walked out. His choice.


I asked him why. He told me everyone he knew was doing it to goof off and get out of class. He said he would of participated had it been solely for honoring the students who lost their lives. But because the media twisted it into a gun control thing, he wanted no part of it.
Smart kid.
 

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Old School
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The walk out during school thing, I'm proud to say my 15 yr old sat in his class while over half his class walked out. His choice.


I asked him why. He told me everyone he knew was doing it to goof off and get out of class. He said he would of participated had it been solely for honoring the students who lost their lives. But because the media twisted it into a gun control thing, he wanted no part of it.
Good job raising that boy! :thumb:
 

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The walk out during school thing, I'm proud to say my 15 yr old sat in his class while over half his class walked out. His choice.


I asked him why. He told me everyone he knew was doing it to goof off and get out of class. He said he would of participated had it been solely for honoring the students who lost their lives. But because the media twisted it into a gun control thing, he wanted no part of it.
This is something you could be very proud of. Your son thinks for himself. Good job dad:thumb:
We can only hope what drives him will rub off on his fellow students.
 

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I read somewhere that he recently moved from California, and chose that school because they have a student TV station. I'm thinking that he's trying to parlay his 15 minutes of fame into a career in television.
 
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