wave_crusher· I'll Direc your TV
Now that was funny! :sonicjay::sonicjay:Not true. Have you heard about Jesus?
Now that was funny! :sonicjay::sonicjay:Not true. Have you heard about Jesus?
That is honestly one of my biggest concerns, that there will be all these regulations and limitations placed; curfews, limites on groups...etc. Then when this clears up, and it will, the government will realize "Hey, people are much more manageable like this" and all these limitations and regulations won't go away.There will be far more cases confirmed, simply because this and most viruses are never tested for. This will feed the hype and hysteria even more.
My background is in microbiology, and my wife is a molecular biologist, shes the one that actually does these tests, and also now runs the lab that takes the samples and does the tests. The only stress shes feeling is getting the new equipment running she has been asking for for 2 years. The government made the money available and now the hospital rubber stamped it as a result of this.
She was not worried until she saw me checking inventories in case the hood comes looking for easy takings.
My personal feelings is there is a lot the government is not telling us, as with other viruses we lost lots of people and no one lost their heads like this, not enough to decimate the worlds economies anyway.
China will recover fast, slave labor and still plenty of people, the rest of the world, not so much. Then with Wall Street tanked it will make it easier than ever for them to buy up our industry, and economy.
On our end government will use it as an excuse for more control and less freedoms that we will never get back.
well, there's also a reason why more people get sick in the winter time. Virus can't survive outside saliva or mucus; in the winter that just freezes and thaws just enough with human contact for that person to contract it, couple that with a lack of sunshine and lack of general well being (people are generally much happier, and feel better in the summer, huge factor is their body's ability to fight infections and viruses). In the summer, that saliva dries up rather quick, and the virus dies off without being able to infect as many people.I don't agree with the weather/temperature theory. Australia is not having any luck with their 80+ degree temperatures.
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None of that actually answers anything.Boy everybody’s a expert but wrong info. Nobody really knows what’s going to happen when it gets warm
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and yet you never called me back after our supposedly "magical" weekend.We reconnected in 07, 09, 11, 13-15. I had it bad for her and I’m hard to stay mad at. We tried.
Glad I bought my AR when I did and ammo for it.Still, it should be made clear.
Change subject from my philandering ways.
I thought it was on here, one of you reprobates last year said about ammo “these are the good times, buy up”.
I wanted to buy a metric shit ton of 22LR Then, but was too busy with the move. Oh well, next time.
Which is really funny, because not 2 days ago she made a statement that shutting everything down wasn't something she was "even contemplating"The governor speaks at 11am today. Word is she is shutting it all down.
I don't think re-infection is as huge a concern though, because then it would be similar to flu now in regards that the body will still have a better ability to fight the virus as it has the anti-bodies for it to begin with. So even if (when) it mutates, the body will be more prepared to fight it off, versus now where there's no anti-bodies for any form of it.No question it'll continue to rise, at this point it's just a matter of for how long. Gonna be reeeeeal bad for a long time, that's for sure.
The antibody thing and herd immunity is definitely of major interest to me. I'm starting to see more and more reports though of potential re-infections of recovered patients in places like Wuhan. Scary stuff, although at this point there are obviously lots of variables that could be at play. Plus potentially fast mutation rates of the virus could further complicate things. I'm trying to just roll with it as much as possible since I'm already doing as much as I realistically can to stay healthy and safe.....but I'm a very analytical person and like to have a plan, so it's tough for me to just shut that off and ride the wave.
I mean, if you can recover from it one, then like any other corona virus, you can recover from it again. Even ebola patients that recover have antibodies that last 10+ years. Not saying i'm not worried, but this is a big deal because it's a novel virus.I haven't dug a moat or built a trebuchet yet, so there's still work to be done.
I like and can't disagree with that logic, but I'm worried with how little we still know about this that maybe it's not that simple. Guess we'll find out.
I admit, I did go run some errands; went to the hardware store, bank drive through, picked up a set of tires for my grandpa's truck.By staying away from people this will work. It can't spread if people aren't socializing / congregating. I have not left the house since 3/19. My wife has left the house once since 3/17 to get groceries, our son has been home from daycare since 3/17. Hopefully most are doing the same so we can squash this thing and get back to a somewhat normal life.
It really doesn't seem that dead up here. Could be just because it's a smaller city and there less nonsense traffic, but I don't think that people here are taking the stay home order seriously.I went and got more fuel last night at about 8pm...
In the 25 minutes it took me to fill all my cans I saw 1 car drive by. It was a delivery person for Cottage Inn pizza. Other than that, only semi trucks. Usually Chelsea is a rocking place.
and that's how this shit spread to places that don't have international traffic. Douchebags from hot zones up and left the first time someone said "stay put"so this is what we are doing.
our isolation started a week to ten days before you guys. I'm no oracle, it just worked out that way. we have had contact with six (I counted) since this started.
We started the grocery delivery too. order on line, two hour later a person brings it to you. Now it takes three days.
I have a buddy in Idaho.
Otis moved semi off grid when he retired. He has a beautiful place overlooking the Payette River. No internet and local TV. he goes to town every month for groceries. Thats the setup. when this started I called him, Otis said, and I quote "This is the backwoods of Idaho, we dont do that here".
He now says all the summer homes on the way to town, that are normally vacant, had two to five cars in the driveways. There are people EVERYWHERE! When he got to the market, the shelves were bare. The truck comes in on wednesday night after closing, by thursday noon they were cleaned out.
He says he will try McCall or Boise if he cannot stock up at the store this week.
he is the only one in my small circle I know in dire straights. I amazoned him a case of progresso soup and three boxes of crackers. who knows when that will get there.
Since about a month or so ago, we have kept all doors and windows locked at all times, home or not.Its called a "raiding party", people will get desperate. "prepare to repel boarders!"
Cripple the economy or kill millions? What would be a lesser evil?https://www.americanthinker.com/art...WdxtAk8-0nQFd5U5pYfUgT-j2awOOgY#ixzz6IldKz4Gk
Is shutting the whole country down such a great idea? As a society we don't shut everything down for cold a flu season and 60,000 people died from that last year alone.
This is a more contagious than the flu I get that but is it ok to destroy an economy over it? Which would affect millions in so many ways.
That's kinda the point...if you get it, then then statistically you're going to give it to at least 4 others; then those 4 give it to 4, then those 16 give it to 4...so on so on.This will get a few of you good and fired up :woot:
That is the big difference here some smell fear and desperation while others smell opportunity on the horizon. No one wants to see a love one lost to this shit but I would take 2 or 3 doses of 19 over the 5 year long battle my grandfather just lost to Dementia. As I explained it to my 8 year-old the other day there is a big difference between reacting to something and over-reacting to something, I see a lot of over-reacting all around us. Don't get me wrong I am not running around licking door knobs or taking ridiculous risk but I am not going to hide under the covers for the next 3 months either.
I admit, I went to Home Depot over the weekend for some wood for projects. Which I will continue to do, if the store is open and people are working. I did not go to the store for a $3 box of nails; I made a list of what I want to get done, multiple projects, or parts to projects, and got everything at once; limiting the amount of time(s) i'm at the store, and "out and about".I've heard quite a few second and third hand accounts of it getting worse, especially places like Home Depot and Menards, but no first hand and haven't looked into what the actual changes late late week were. I know some got more strict but haven't looked for myself yet what was changed. Sounds like enough people were skirting and ignoring it that they're going to continually spell it out and clamp down.
I get the idea that it's supposed to limit people from going to store for no reason, but i'm thinking of, what about all the people that have to take care of that shit now. The essential workers that now, aside from keeping the shelves stocked, counting people coming/going, cleaning everything at all times, questioning and testing other esseintal workers...now have to go around, seperate off 70% of the store, and keep track of people that stack "non-essential" items in their, then have to take those items away, and either throw them in a big ass pile somewhere, or go put them back.Because it gives a reason for people to go to the store solely to buy unessential items. Do you really need window shades? Do you really need to paint your bedroom? The idea of staying open is to be able to fix your leaky toilet or broken window.