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Old March 1st, 2019, 10:04 AM   #101
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And conservatives will say that the Democrats are for the thought of climate change due to pollution/man as a way to increase government control and push their socialist agenda.



I prefer to discuss facts and not suspected motives.


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When you believe the lie about climate change with all the evidence against it, you are brainwashed. See just because a large portion of the population believe it doesn't make it true.
Considering the source, I find this comment absolutely fucking hilarious.
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Old March 1st, 2019, 04:29 PM   #103
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Ice sheets are not glaciers, ice sheets grew in Antarctica but glaciers melted in North Pole. Guess ya shoulda read my link. And hereís some facts for ya
https://earthdata.nasa.gov/user-reso...en-oceans-drop


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The very first sentence talks about," how humans are changing the climate".

Why is this only happening now? According to evolutionists humans have been around for millions of years.
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Well alrighty then, I guess you have it all figured out.
Well I'm glad we have this all figured out. For a minute there I thought we were going to get into a long drawn out debate
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The north pole is surrounded by ocean, no glaciers there. Antarctica has both ice sheets and glaciers. Some are growing, but more are melting.
I'll just leave this here.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...arctic-sea-ice
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Old March 1st, 2019, 04:38 PM   #106
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Considering the source, I find this comment absolutely fucking hilarious.
This serious business. There is no room for funny stuff.
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The very first sentence talks about," how humans are changing the climate".



Why is this only happening now? According to evolutionists humans have been around for millions of years.


Well it donít take a genius to figure out that the industrial revolution brought on many changes to the world. Most great and some not. Donít think tonto riding his horse created much pollution or the caveman with his spear


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Well it don’t take a genius to figure out that the industrial revolution brought on many changes to the world. Most great and some not. Don’t think tonto riding his horse created much pollution or the caveman with his spear


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Yes. Specifically, we started changing the atmosphere when we started pulling hydrocarbons out of the ground in large quantities and burning them and releasing the resulting CO2 into the atmosphere.

Yes, they are trace quantities, but they have nearly doubled since we started doing this.
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That is pretty funny. But the proper greenie response it that just shows how unpredictable our weather has become due to higher co2 levels.
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Downtown L.A. Temps Didn’t Reach 70 Degrees in February for the First Time in at Least 132 Years
https://ktla.com/2019/03/01/downtown...ast-132-years/
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What i've taken away from this thread. By: wave_crusher

In the face of scientific evidence and proven facts from multiple, peer reviewed sources, many people will choose to ignore what they don't agree with on the basis of "it doesn't seem reasonable" to them. The slow, but steady, changes in climate and global temperature increase, seems to only justify what other call "normal" weather patterns. The proven numbers of pollution and emissions of "green-house" gasses (which are not in dispute) are labeled as minuscule and non-effecting, but opponents of climate change.

The largest party that is against any human affected climate change, with following the well established stereotype, are those that have extreme religious views. That continues the aforementioned stereotype of religious zealots disposition of disregarding all scientific actualities if those sciences oppose the extreme religious opinions.

In summation; the human brain will choose to only comprehend what he or she deems as "reasonable", even in the face of proven scientific facts; instead choosing to disregard those facts and use them as the "exception that proves the rule"; even when the exception doesn't exist.
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What i've taken away from this thread. By: WhiteRhino

There is no disputing that the climate is changing. However, there are those who presume that man has affected that change and there are those who propose that the known scientific data is such a short snapshot in time that it is impractical to draw a firm conclusion as to it being man affected or natural.

There are those who use (in their mind) practical reasoning to shoot holes in religion, and there are those who are firm religious believers. Those who are trying to shoot holes maintain a "you won't listen to reasoning or facts" while the super religious state "you must believe God". On the flip side, there are those who are not firm believers in man affected climate change and when they shoot holes in this belief, the believers state "you must believe the scientists".

And then, there are those who if they don't agree with you, they immediately label you. (as in the case above)

To summarize, I believe the planet has been changing for millions of years and continues to change. I do not know if man is affecting this change or if it is natural, nor if man can alter it. But as stated multiple times, I believe that man is polluting our planet, and that is something man can fix.
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What i've taken away from this thread. By: WhiteRhino

There is no disputing that the climate is changing. However, there are those who presume that man has affected that change and there are those who propose that the known scientific data is such a short snapshot in time that it is impractical to draw a firm conclusion as to it being man affected or natural.

There are those who use (in their mind) practical reasoning to shoot holes in religion, and there are those who are firm religious believers. Those who are trying to shoot holes maintain a "you won't listen to reasoning or facts" while the super religious state "you must believe God". On the flip side, there are those who are not firm believers in man affected climate change and when they shoot holes in this belief, the believers state "you must believe the scientists".

And then, there are those who if they don't agree with you, they immediately label you. (as in the case above)

To summarize, I believe the planet has been changing for millions of years and continues to change. I do not know if man is affecting this change or if it is natural, nor if man can alter it. But as stated multiple times, I believe that man is polluting our planet, and that is something man can fix.
wasn't including you as the religious person. pretty much just aber to whom I was refeering. He doesn't even seem to agree that pollution exists and affects the planet.
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wasn't including you as the religious person. pretty much just aber to whom I was refeering. He doesn't even seem to agree that pollution exists and affects the planet.
But see, here's the thing ~ I am a religious person. And like so many things in life, not everyone sees the same thing, even if they are basically on the same page.
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What i've taken away from this thread. By: WhiteRhino

There is no disputing that the climate is changing. However, there are those who presume that man has affected that change and there are those who propose that the known scientific data is such a short snapshot in time that it is impractical to draw a firm conclusion as to it being man affected or natural.

There are those who use (in their mind) practical reasoning to shoot holes in religion, and there are those who are firm religious believers. Those who are trying to shoot holes maintain a "you won't listen to reasoning or facts" while the super religious state "you must believe God". On the flip side, there are those who are not firm believers in man affected climate change and when they shoot holes in this belief, the believers state "you must believe the scientists".

And then, there are those who if they don't agree with you, they immediately label you. (as in the case above)

To summarize, I believe the planet has been changing for millions of years and continues to change. I do not know if man is affecting this change or if it is natural, nor if man can alter it. But as stated multiple times, I believe that man is polluting our planet, and that is something man can fix.


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But see, here's the thing ~ I am a religious person. And like so many things in life, not everyone sees the same thing, even if they are basically on the same page.
Well, if you have extreme religious views, then yep, I guess I was talking about you. From what i've seen; I don't believe I was referring to you. But hey, if the shoe fits and you want to.


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Well, if you have extreme religious views, then yep, I guess I was talking about you. From what i've seen; I don't believe I was referring to you. But hey, if the shoe fits and you want to.
Yep, that's back to the extremes of pretty much any idealogy, belief, affiliation, party, etc being problematic. They're so blindly devoted to said belief that no amount of logic, thought, debate, or evidence will change their mind.


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wasn't including you as the religious person. pretty much just aber to whom I was refeering. He doesn't even seem to agree that pollution exists and affects the planet.
I never said that there was no pollution and never said it didn't affect the planet. I am old enough to remember what Detroit used to look like in the late 60's and early 70's.
Brown nasty river water and refineries and factories spewing crap in the air.
Do we have pollution that is pumped into the atmosphere from countries around the globe? Sure we do. Is it affecting the weather? I don't think so. Can man change the weather? I don't believe so.
Do I believe that God controls the weather? Yes.
Scripture says, "even the wind and waves obey Him".
God allows the weather to do what it will do. Can He change what the weather will do? If He wants to.
You can follow the crowd. Just because everyone else says that climate change is real doesn't mean it is. There is plenty of evidence that says its not. There is plenty of evidence to show it is a hoax. There is evidence that shows the data has been falsified.
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What i've taken away from this thread. By: wave_crusher

In the face of scientific evidence and proven facts from multiple, peer reviewed sources, many people will choose to ignore what they don't agree with on the basis of "it doesn't seem reasonable" to them. The slow, but steady, changes in climate and global temperature increase, seems to only justify what other call "normal" weather patterns. The proven numbers of pollution and emissions of "green-house" gasses (which are not in dispute) are labeled as minuscule and non-effecting, but opponents of climate change.

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In summation; the human brain will choose to only comprehend what he or she deems as "reasonable", even in the face of proven scientific facts; instead choosing to disregard those facts and use them as the "exception that proves the rule"; even when the exception doesn't exist.
You do seem to read up on and research global warming/climate change. I have opposing views and research from a pretty smart guy. He used to be an evolutionist scientist. He has come around 180 degrees. He is still a scientist but looks at it from a creationists point of view.
Check out his article on global warming.
It is a rather long read but it might give you some insight to what others think about the climate and the earth.

https://www.creationworldview.org/ar...view.asp?id=67
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Here's what I got from this thread. By BlooMule:

People disagree and get defensive when their view is challenged.

That, and we are all gonna die.


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