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Old December 17th, 2018, 12:19 PM   #21
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I thought everyone found a loophole to register and insure them out of state? I cant remember which state or how that worked. Pretty helpful, I know.
South Dakota motorcycle plate is the loophole. It's only a matter of time till that goes away I'm sure. Last year Oceana County wasn't honoring that plate, so you couldn't drive in dune ready at Silver Lake even though you were technically legal. Couple friends made it in 1 day with the plate, then got booted out of line the next day and had to have a truck and trailer pick them up.
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South Dakota motorcycle plate is the loophole. It's only a matter of time till that goes away I'm sure. Last year Oceana County wasn't honoring that plate, so you couldn't drive in dune ready at Silver Lake even though you were technically legal. Couple friends made it in 1 day with the plate, then got booted out of line the next day and had to have a truck and trailer pick them up.
I would think that would be illegal, it would be like Indiana saying they won't allow your jeep anymore.
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Old December 17th, 2018, 12:56 PM   #23
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how does a local county not allow another state's registered plate?
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Im guessing they go by if it doesn’t match state safety standards. No different than Utah not allowing rigs without fender flares or other states not allowing longer truck/trailer combos.
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Old December 17th, 2018, 01:56 PM   #25
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Im guessing they go by if it doesnít match state safety standards. No different than Utah not allowing rigs without fender flares or other states not allowing longer truck/trailer combos.
That makes sense; I think the law states that the vehicle still has to pass all safety equipment stuff.

Seems like that is almost a loophole that they are exploiting for the dunes though. Kinda like a personal opinion kinda thing.
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Old December 17th, 2018, 02:07 PM   #26
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Im guessing they go by if it doesn’t match state safety standards. No different than Utah not allowing rigs without fender flares or other states not allowing longer truck/trailer combos.
that's within a states authority. I dont see how a county does this. Although I don't understand how cities also have the right to tax goods at a different level than the state, or how a city can have different firearm laws than a state either...
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that's within a states authority. I dont see how a county does this. Although I don't understand how cities also have the right to tax goods at a different level than the state, or how a city can have different firearm laws than a state either...
I agree. I doubt the county has that authority on its own but we all know people arenít likely to push back. Guns fall under preemption.
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I didn’t think it was legal to live in Michigan,with a Michigan license and register a vehicle out of state. Seems like an easy way to get around no fault insurance too?
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The DNR at the dunes told them ( my brother and another friend) that they aren't allowed into the dunes because their plates weren't recognized by the county sheriff and that they were lucky they hadn't been cited already. we had driven them all weekend and passed the sheriff without issue though. hell I drove my old one back to Val Du from the dunes without a plate and they never even glanced at me. I chalk it up to DNR overreach if not anything else. we all live in Livingston county and have yet to get stopped at all by state or local authorities. I figured i'd at least get a compliance check once last summer but the cops really don't care
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Arizona also is a loophole i know a few with there sxs registered and plated driving around in Michigan.
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I didnít think it was legal to live in Michigan,with a Michigan license and register a vehicle out of state. Seems like an easy way to get around no fault insurance too?
I believe that is mostly correct, you have to have a MI driver license if you have residency in MI. You must register your vehicles, resident or not if:


Register to vote in Michigan.
File a Michigan income tax statement.
Open a Michigan business.
Obtain a Michigan driver's license.
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This was signed into law by the governor on 12-31-18.
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This was signed into law by the governor on 12-31-18.
I hope it works out well. I thought it was stupid when they outlawed it and although my Rhino was grandfathered, insurance companies started dropping them so the real question will be if the insurance companies change their minds.
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Looks like the Roxor is excluded.

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23 (5) AS USED IN THIS SECTION, "ASSEMBLED VEHICLE" DOES NOT
24 INCLUDE EITHER OF THE FOLLOWING:
25 (A) A MILITARY SURPLUS VEHICLE DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL
26 GOVERNMENT AS OFF-ROAD USE ONLY.
27 (B) A GRAY MARKET OFF-ROAD MINITRUCK.
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Looks like the Roxor is excluded.
From what I've found the gray market mini truck is one of the jap mini trucks that's not imported correctly. Being that the roxor is sold in the us already I don't know how that will affect it.
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where do you find info on this i cant find anything
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where do you find info on this i cant find anything
Have to look up the bill number hb 5639 and read all the mumbo jumbo if you want to be an expert. Make sure you look at the final revision and not the initial offering
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where do you find info on this i cant find anything
I read it here.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(lo0...e=2018-HB-5639

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http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(luf...5639-18884.PDF
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From what I've found the gray market mini truck is one of the jap mini trucks that's not imported correctly. Being that the roxor is sold in the us already I don't know how that will affect it.
Hmm. Could be.
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Looks like the Roxor is excluded.
Gray market refers to something imported improperly for that use. For instance driving a diesel smart car from Canada across the border, then selling it peer to peer and just transferring the title. Then trying to use it on the road without being federalized.

The Roxor is built and sold within the US now. I do not believe it would fall into that category.
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