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Old November 24th, 2017, 10:30 AM   #1
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got a 2001 xj that last year turned from my beater with a heater into a trail toy had a budget boost and 31s


i'm a sucker for the muddy hills, water crossings and skinny pedal. The engine developed a knock after the abuse.

So i pulled that out and searched for an ls to swap in.


I had a np435 and 205 from my f150 spare parts


after some creative work i got the sbc bellhousing to fit on the ford tranny



got some other mod-things going on at the same time as well


roughed up some engine mounts, still need to fab some frame mounts


fits in nice


my tranny will need a remote linkage to keep the shifter short. 205 will get double sticks and line locks

that's where i'm at. Wife is shopping now (kid duty) but tomorrow is all me and beers in the shop

let me know what i'm doing wrong along the way (i'm kinda wingin it)

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Old November 24th, 2017, 12:47 PM   #2
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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gener.../topics/572617

Good thread on twin sticking the Ford 205. Just click the photobucket links, or use Firefox browser and a hotlink extension to fix the pb pics on your android. Twin sticking the 205 seems pretty easy, and is a great mod imo.
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Old November 24th, 2017, 03:44 PM   #3
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looks easy enough. Thanks for the info

I had a similar idea in my head
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No problem.
Since you're going v-8, and going to be twin sticking the 205, are you going to upgrade to 1 tons? I bet you'll wish you did if you don't. You should look at the 05+ super duty axles. The dana 60 fronts can be had for 200 or less depending on the yard you go to, and have bigger axles than early 60's, and can also fit 1550 joints between the C's for less than 300. Pretty good upgrade axles and basically bomb proof for less than 1k if you go with a spartan locker.
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Ive got a disc brake e350 full floater rear and a i have my eye on a 2004 power stroke 60 ($300) . I'm going to run these axles for a bit for money's sake.

ive got some ford axles d44/9" i got in a trade i need to sell off before i can pull the trigger on that.

looking to run 37's minimum so 60's are a must probaby stretch slightly too.

Once i'm all done with that a turbo would be nice
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Beginning to see how far i can push the engine back. So far it's about 3 inches past where the firewall used to be

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Ive got a disc brake e350 full floater rear and a i have my eye on a 2004 power stroke 60 ($300) . I'm going to run these axles for a bit for money's sake.

ive got some ford axles d44/9" i got in a trade i need to sell off before i can pull the trigger on that.

looking to run 37's minimum so 60's are a must probaby stretch slightly too.

Once i'm all done with that a turbo would be nice
Going leaf spring in the front then? Not a terrible choice at all. You'll be fine with 37's and those axles. You could run 40's without issue. What gearing you going to choose? What about lockers? I'm running a spartan, they're cheap, and pretty damn tough. Most people would disagree with me, but i would lock the front before the rear. It gives you the ability to pull yourself over obstacles that a locked rear wouldn't get you over because it has to push instead of climb. Keep at it. This thing will be a beast!
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no leafs in the front. I'm going air struts and radius arms. Rear will stay leafs for a bit until i can 4 link it.
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no leafs in the front. I'm going air struts and radius arms. Rear will stay leafs for a bit until i can 4 link it.
Honestly, if you're going radius arms anyway, you'd be money and time ahead to find an 05+ super duty axle. Every f250, f350 super duty after 05 had dana 60 fronts. They are also radius arm suspensions. Plenty of people have retrofitted them onto very capable rigs using the stock mounts and in some cases the coils as well. You're probably a bit light for that, but after market coils ate available. Plus these axles are everywhere, and if you call around to all the salvage yards available to you, i bet you can find one sub 300. Not trying to tell you what to do, just trying to help you see the benefits and maybe other options from what you planned. Either way, it's going to be a good build.
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chances are i'll have to move mounts on the axle from a 05 SD axle anyway. OR bend the radius arms which i dont really want to do

Honestly if this one from craiglist still isnt' there when i have the scratch i'm open to any decent 60 for less than $500
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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/ford/...coilovers.html

Read through this thread. The platform doesn't really compare, but he does put pretty decent bends in his arms. Others also describe the same situation with no Ill effects. If you use the right material, the bends will have no weakness that you'd be able to find.
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yup bristol

Alright maybe bends are ok. Thats a heavy ass truck. If it fairs well then, im more than ok
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If you go that route, plenty of people just copy the duff arms to mount to the stock axle mounts. This would likely get you by until a later date should you decide on another suspension setup. I will stop loading your thread with all this talk now. Good luck!
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talk is always good. That's what a forum is for really.

Got some metal being delivered wednesday so hopefully i can plate the frame, start a transmission cross member, and finish mounting the engine.
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Just wasn't sure if it was appropriate since i seem to be contradicting your intentions. I hope it's helping you out some.
I did check on salvage yards in your area, and there seems to be a bunch located west of you, not sure on the distance, but I'd seriously just start calling them all until you find that dana 60 for the best price you can. I found my kingpin axle for 375 that way. If i could go back, I'd go with the 05+ axle though. Unit bearings are much better than the older axles for keeping water intrusion at bay. Plus upgrading to bigger stronger shafts/joints is much cheaper and easier.
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the super duty axles have been what i've wanted for a bit, but $$$. Might save the sterling for a 14 bolt instead. Shave them both because i'll probably be stuck running 37's until i find a rich cougar or something
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got a very small amount time to do some work. started on a tranny crossmember and plated my subframe on both sides.




also got a bw s475 turbo for a 6 pack. Should be good for 500hp and give me room to up that number in the future
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need to make a cowl that doesn't look like shit, Need to gut the manifolds and run strait forward to vbands and start bracing my 2x5 rockers so i can lay the floor
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Got my rad in, hopefully it'll cool well



started making the keeper for the rad
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Got an ls6 intake setup now. The cowl was going to be pretty large for the truck intake.
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