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Old November 7th, 2015, 01:00 PM   #1
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Default swing out tire carrier hinges/pivots

What's the best options out there?
What kind of weight limits do they tend to have?

My google-fu skills are lacking this morning and I'm having trouble finding a good pivot/hinge
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Old November 7th, 2015, 01:28 PM   #2
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A to Z Fabrication
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Old November 7th, 2015, 01:31 PM   #3
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Just use bicycle bearings and a 3 piece crank.

Cut and weld until you have the desired results.
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I used the A to Z Fabrication builders kit when I built my rear bumper. It was a really good kit and it worked well
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Old November 7th, 2015, 03:15 PM   #6
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I wonder how much weight those guys can tolerate?

I'm looking at 300-400lbs.

I want to modify one of these to make it swing out so I can get into the back of my tahoe with out having to take all of the bikes off the rack all the time.



http://www.northshoreracks.com/NSR%206-bike.htm

It will remain a hitch rack, but to swing out I think I'll have to build some sort of bracket that will support the pivot point that bolts onto the truck somewhere under the bumper.

I'd also like to make it potentially able to hold 8 bikes instead of 6.

8 bikes at 30-40lbs each.

This idea may or may not be doable.
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What kind of bike are you riding that's 30-40 lbs? I feel like that's extremely heavy? Although I have no idea what a mountain bike weighs these days
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What kind of bike are you riding that's 30-40 lbs? I feel like that's extremely heavy? Although I have no idea what a mountain bike weighs these days

Most mountain bikes are around the 30lb mark until you get into the super light cross country race machines. But on average.

XC hardtail super light race machines 18lbs is on the pretty light side, some guys have gotten down to about 15, but that's $$$ and fragile.

XC full suspension super light race machines 18-22lbs is average.

Average bike that doesn't cost more than a used car is 25-30.

My trail bike which is carbon fiber, longer travel, has heavier duty wheels/tires/cranks/handlebars than the aforementioned XC race machines is 28lbs. It's a pretty light bike considering it's intended purposes.

My last Downhill bike was 41. My current Downhill bike is 36lbs. Frame is pretty light, but I didn't go all weight weenie on the structural parts (wheels, cranks, handlebars) The 5lb difference was in not running DH tubes on the current bike and switching to tubeless, air shock instead of coil, and the frame is about a 1lb lighter. I could probably get the current bike down to 33, but then i'd be concerned about durability.



Most downhill bikes are 38-42 on average.

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I imagine that pivot would handle it. If you wanted to get stupid with it, pull an automotive spindle and hub and hack away what you don't need.

And that rack seems expensive to have to modify.

I would build from scratch. Basically building a typical swing out tire carrier bumper, except this slides into your receiver hitch, and you've got the bike racks instead of tire mount. Probably even good to weld another piece of receiver hitch tubing to the far side of your existing hitch tubing for more support and help eliminate rocking around that you'd get from a single receiver.
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I like the style Pat @CreativeFab has used. You can add additional bracing if needed. It has a 2000lb rating
http://www.kingmetals.com/Catalog/It...temNumber=5005
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My understanding that as long as the weight is in the same plane (or close) as the spindle then really it can handle just about anything. The big thing that bends and breaks these spindles is when the weight is put way far out behind the spindle and then you bounce up and down trails on it all day. The one that I linked you to should do fine.
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How about 2 carriers, one on each end of the bumper and when closed they look like the picture you posted.
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I imagine that pivot would handle it. If you wanted to get stupid with it, pull an automotive spindle and hub and hack away what you don't need.

And that rack seems expensive to have to modify.

I would build from scratch. Basically building a typical swing out tire carrier bumper, except this slides into your receiver hitch, and you've got the bike racks instead of tire mount. Probably even good to weld another piece of receiver hitch tubing to the far side of your existing hitch tubing for more support and help eliminate rocking around that you'd get from a single receiver.
I will be copying that rack, making some changes, etc. Not buying and cutting it up.

Plan was to build a bracket of sorts that would bolt to the truck and also bolt to the rack near the pivot (passenger side like a spare tire bumper on a jeep). Similar to what you describe.
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I like the style Pat @CreativeFab has used. You can add additional bracing if needed. It has a 2000lb rating
http://www.kingmetals.com/Catalog/It...temNumber=5005
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My understanding that as long as the weight is in the same plane (or close) as the spindle then really it can handle just about anything. The big thing that bends and breaks these spindles is when the weight is put way far out behind the spindle and then you bounce up and down trails on it all day. The one that I linked you to should do fine.
I don't expect much weight on the pivot in the closed position.
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How about 2 carriers, one on each end of the bumper and when closed they look like the picture you posted.
wait what?
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I will be copying that rack, making some changes, etc. Not buying and cutting it up.

Plan was to build a bracket of sorts that would bolt to the truck and also bolt to the rack near the pivot (passenger side like a spare tire bumper on a jeep). Similar to what you describe.
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I don't expect much weight on the pivot in the closed position.

wait what?

Like what you posted but cut in half so each side takes half the weight. I don't think the bumper is going to like 500 pounds mounted on one end. I realize that would only be when opened but still the concern is there.

And they would latch together in the middle.

Make sense now?
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Like what you posted but cut in half so each side takes half the weight. I don't think the bumper is going to like 500 pounds mounted on one end. I realize that would only be when opened but still the concern is there.

And they would latch together in the middle.

Make sense now?
Yes

It won't be open very often, but when it is I thought about even adding a small kickstand. When closed the weight should be centered.
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