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Old April 13th, 2019, 01:35 PM   #1
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For me and the patios I've helped with and the people I've talked with that have done their own paver patio the base has been primarily constructed of

4-8" of 21AA, compacted
1" of slag sand
Then set pavers, sweep in sand, and compact them.

I'm between buying Fendt or Unilock pavers. Fendt still recommends the method using the 21AA. But Unilock is now changed and recommends an approach used more for permeable pavers, recommending this base construction for permeable and non permeable pavers, claiming their 40 years of experience has them recommending this method.......

cover area with geotextile mat
6-8" 3/4" CLEAR CHIP STONE (NO FINES) compacted
1" THICK LAYER OF 1/4" STONE CHIP (NO FINES)
Then set pavers, sweep in sand, and compact them.

Anybody have any input or advice on this method?
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Old April 13th, 2019, 08:13 PM   #2
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I haven't heard of this new method but I have been out of the install game for awhile, But i Know the old way is tried and true.
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Slag should not be used under pavers. It has a shitload of calcium and will eat the pavers from the bottom up. It is the easiest to work with and arguably more stable initially, so many still use it. But you shouldnt

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My son in law is a certified Unilock installer. I know he likes the new method. I know my pavers done 15 years ago with the first method are definitely settling.
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From bottom to top:
Geotextile riprap
9-13" of 3/4" no fines crushed limestone (basically I removed all topsoil and stopped at sand, couldn't find anyone to give me crushed stone with no fines which is what I normally use)
Compacted with a pickup truck
Geotextile riprap
1-3" of crushed granite (expensive around here)
compacted with a pickup truck
Set pavers
Sweep in mason's sand
Wash it
Sweep in more mason's sand
Wash it
Sweep in more mason's sand

For the edges I used typical plastic paver edge stuff but I used either 14" long nails or I made 2' long 3/8" rods with a washer welded on top for nails.

Hasn't moved yet through 5 winters but I used cheap Menards 11x14 "flagstone" pavers.

I was going to use Unilock pavers from their spring "seconds" sale but they were still expensive enough that combined with all the prep work it would have been cheaper just to pay someone else to pour stamped concrete.

At some point the crushed limestone will probably settle but so far nothing has moved. When I as in the UP I used crushed basalt (yooper rock) for all of it.

If it sees a lot of water (like water flowing across it) then I'd use polymeric sand. Helps with washout.
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