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Old May 13th, 2019, 01:56 PM   #21
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was it the chicken or the egg that came first

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Old May 13th, 2019, 02:21 PM   #22
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I am hungry right now, so I will take either.
or both ????? I love me a Barbecue chicken omelette



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Old May 13th, 2019, 03:14 PM   #23
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I believe in “Climate Acceptance”.
Fighting the inevitable is a waste.

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Old May 14th, 2019, 06:17 AM   #25
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Old May 14th, 2019, 06:26 AM   #26
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I believe in “Climate Acceptance”.
Fighting the inevitable is a waste.
Other developing countries are pumping tons of crap into the atmosphere and we are supposed to be responsible for that? I will make a bet that 10 years from now and i'm assuming we will all be here like we were 10 years ago(ongl4x4) and nothing has changed except we all got 10 years older.
We will have seasons with weather changing constantly. Spring will be early or late just like this year.
Nothing will change, but maybe brewmenn's mind.
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Other developing countries are pumping tons of crap into the atmosphere and we are supposed to be responsible for that? I will make a bet that 10 years from now and i'm assuming we will all be here like we were 10 years ago(ongl4x4) and nothing has changed except we all got 10 years older.
We will have seasons with weather changing constantly. Spring will be early or late just like this year.
Nothing will change, but maybe brewmenn's mind.
I prefer the term “Non-Developing Countries”. They are wallowing in their byproducts and pollution for monetary gain. They are not willing to risk clean and safe standards/practices for fear it will cut into profits. (See “Dirty Diaper” from some other thread)

It seems odd to me that the only economic solutions involve taxing the prosperous or subsidizing questionable technologies. Maybe the U.N. and other first world entities should be applying the taxes and tariffs to goods coming from the worst polluters and players instead?

I happen to believe climate change is caused by the same thing that causes magnetic declination to change and the earths axis. You know the Earths death wobble. Everything is connected.


https://ktla.com/2019/05/17/spring-s...-this-weekend/

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Old May 19th, 2019, 11:59 AM   #28
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I prefer the term “Non-Developing Countries”. They are wallowing in their byproducts and pollution for monetary gain. They are not willing to risk clean and safe standards/practices for fear it will cut into profits. (See “Dirty Diaper” from some other thread)

It seems odd to me that the only economic solutions involve taxing the prosperous or subsidizing questionable technologies. Maybe the U.N. and other first world entities should be applying the taxes and tariffs to goods coming from the worst polluters and players instead?

I happen to believe climate change is caused by the same thing that causes magnetic declination to change and the earths axis. You know the Earths death wobble. Everything is connected.


https://ktla.com/2019/05/17/spring-s...-this-weekend/
I believe you are right and you nailed it. They should tax a penalize the ones responsible for dumping. The are in it for financial gain. Also it s to spread the wealth and take or knock us down a notch or two.
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Old May 20th, 2019, 07:02 AM   #29
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Other developing countries are pumping tons of crap into the atmosphere and we are supposed to be responsible for that? I will make a bet that 10 years from now and i'm assuming we will all be here like we were 10 years ago(ongl4x4) and nothing has changed except we all got 10 years older.
We will have seasons with weather changing constantly. Spring will be early or late just like this year.
Nothing will change, but maybe brewmenn's mind.
I hope so. 10 years is a long time.
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Old May 20th, 2019, 05:13 PM   #30
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I hope so. 10 years is a long time.
When your little boy turns 13 you're going to say, wow, when did those last 10 years go?
The older you get times seems to go by faster.
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Ok, for you ones that don't understand, they got it backwards, it is a new ice age. It has started already, the polar ice has started to melt, once it melts and covers so much more of the earth, our temps will start to drop lower and lower due to the surface water reflecting the suns rays away from the earth. This will cause the rolling snow ball effect, dropping the temps even faster. Soon the ice will form closer and closer to the equator. The closer it gets to the equator the faster the earth cools and the higher the snow will build, due to the surface area of all the water since the ice melted then spread over the earth. The earth will be in another ice age. Once the ice flows start to shift back and forth from side to side and north and south it will erase our screw ups, like a scrubbing machine. Then eventually the ice will melt and we will start all over again, with global warming.
OK, CAN WE NOW JUST SIT DOWN, HAVE A BEER AND MAYBE A CIGAR AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE!
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Well, that was easy.
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When your little boy turns 13 you're going to say, wow, when did those last 10 years go?
The older you get times seems to go by faster.
I know, you're right.
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OK. My 10 year prediction is that we will still be getting a majority of our energy from fossil fuels, cars, trucks, trains, planes will still run mostly on petroleum. We will see increases in renewable energy, but it will still be minor compared to others.

Global temperatures will still be at or near record highs and still be a concern, but will not have yet caused any catastrophe. Likewise, sea levels will have continued to raise, by a few mm's per year, and have not yet caused any major problems.

The left will still be predicting calamity soon, the right will still be denying it.

Aber and I will still be here debating it.
I can agree with this lol.
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Ok, for you ones that don't understand, they got it backwards, it is a new ice age. It has started already, the polar ice has started to melt, once it melts and covers so much more of the earth, our temps will start to drop lower and lower due to the surface water reflecting the suns rays away from the earth. This will cause the rolling snow ball effect, dropping the temps even faster. Soon the ice will form closer and closer to the equator. The closer it gets to the equator the faster the earth cools and the higher the snow will build, due to the surface area of all the water since the ice melted then spread over the earth. The earth will be in another ice age. Once the ice flows start to shift back and forth from side to side and north and south it will erase our screw ups, like a scrubbing machine. Then eventually the ice will melt and we will start all over again, with global warming.
OK, CAN WE NOW JUST SIT DOWN, HAVE A BEER AND MAYBE A CIGAR AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE!


So is that one for the chicken ????

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