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Old September 9th, 2019, 08:11 PM   #4161
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So what do the Trump supporters here think about this;

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cri...192117129.html

I'm certain that if Obama had planed on negotiating with the Taliban the conservatives would have gone crazy, but Trump seems to be getting a free pass on this.
Trump is the quarterback, he’s got the ball. He calls the play.

He is unconventional, so who knows what he’s thinking.
For example, He has Mexico working harder to control OUR border than democrrats.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/watch-l...9-live-stream/

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Old September 9th, 2019, 08:29 PM   #4162
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If trump would have negotiated with them he would have negotiated through strength not weakness as Obama did with Iran. Obama gave them the farm plus pallets loads of cash.
There's no "if". The Trump administration has been negotiating with the Taliban.
He's basically admitting defeat and telling the Taliban that we'll completely pull out of Afghanistan if they promise not be terrorists anymore. Not exactly a strong position.

What I see is him giving up whatever strength we have in exchange for some vague promises with no way to enforce anything, kinda like he did with North Korea, just so he can make good on some campaign promise.
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Old September 9th, 2019, 08:43 PM   #4163
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Trump is the quarterback, he’s got the ball.

He is unconventional, so who knows what he’s thinking.
For example, He has Mexico working harder to control OUR border than democrrats.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/watch-l...9-live-stream/
Well if I was the coach I'd bench him and put in someone less prone to fumbles.
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Old September 9th, 2019, 09:45 PM   #4165
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I agree, but the faithful never will.
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Old September 9th, 2019, 10:26 PM   #4166
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I think he is temperamentally unfit to be president. I think he’s erratic, I think he’s unprincipled, I think he’s unstable, and I think that he has a personality disorder; I think he’s obsessive.
Sorry, I don’t see him as any of those things.
I think he is an egotistical baffoon, who has turned into a bit of a political savant. He faced down the full weight of the DNC, FBI, DOJ, NSA and CIA in the form of the Russian Collusion Hoax, and emerged stronger.

AND because he won we know more than ever about the dirty deeds of the Obama administration. At that I double down on my claim “Trump saved America”, not only from the ClintonCrimeFamily, he has also exposed top level corruption in our intelligence network.

You say he his screwing America. I say he loves America, and he’s hitting our G spot.
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Old September 10th, 2019, 05:39 AM   #4167
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Old September 10th, 2019, 06:09 AM   #4168
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Sorry, I don’t see him as any of those things.
I think he is an egotistical baffoon, who has turned into a bit of a political savant. He faced down the full weight of the DNC, FBI, DOJ, NSA and CIA in the form of the Russian Collusion Hoax, and emerged stronger.

AND because he won we know more than ever about the dirty deeds of the Obama administration. At that I double down on my claim “Trump saved America”, not only from the ClintonCrimeFamily, he has also exposed top level corruption in our intelligence network.

You say he his screwing America. I say he loves America, and he’s hitting our G spot.
As you mentioned about him screwing America. If he was he would be taking every dime he could. Lets not forget he is working for free, not taking a paycheck. Also his business is taking a hit since he has left that to be president. Do we think his businesses will be more profitable when he resumes control of them? Not at all, his companies have already lost more than a billion dollars and continue to lose money.
I'd say he has taken on the job as president because he loves this country and not for the money as the last guy(Obama) who definitely did it for the money.
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Old September 10th, 2019, 07:27 AM   #4169
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Sorry, I don’t see him as any of those things.
I think he is an egotistical baffoon, who has turned into a bit of a political savant. He faced down the full weight of the DNC, FBI, DOJ, NSA and CIA in the form of the Russian Collusion Hoax, and emerged stronger.

AND because he won we know more than ever about the dirty deeds of the Obama administration. At that I double down on my claim “Trump saved America”, not only from the ClintonCrimeFamily, he has also exposed top level corruption in our intelligence network.

You say he his screwing America. I say he loves America, and he’s hitting our G spot.
Seem like both sides are trying to spin a tale about Trump.

The left wants everyone to think that Trump is mentally unstable, but citing X reason, and keep using words and phrases like "fumbling" and he keeps going back and forth and poking fun at messy wordplay. They make fun of his intelligence (or lack of), pick apart anything said that could remotely be not 110% accurate.

The right wants everyone to think that Trump is doing to dirty deeds that no one else will. They're comparing him to like Batman from the The Dark Knight movie (if you haven't seen it, he's taking the fall and doing what the country needs, not what it wants). Trump is the one cutting out all the rotten parts of the country and causing pain, but justifying it by saying "it will be better in the long run".

Then you've got the rest of the people. Not giving a shit what's going on because it doesn't really matter in the long run. We'll never know the truth, because neither side is actually saying it, and it doesn't fit their "agenda", so it's deemed unnecessary to report.

I see Trump as "for the greater good". I question whose good.
I see Anti-Trump as "for the greater good". I question whose good.
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Old September 10th, 2019, 07:27 AM   #4170
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Old September 10th, 2019, 09:06 AM   #4171
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The good:
Economy is doing good.
Unemployment is down.
North Korea has backed off from where they were. Not good but hopeful.
Mexico is starting to reduce the flow of border crossings.
China is on their heels ~ hopefully this will end well.
My personal taxes are lower.
He placed a semi-conservative judge in the SCOTUS.
We appear to be reducing our involvement in overseas senseless wars.
He is pro 2A. (for the most part)

The bad:
He continues to tweet.
He continues to pick battles and call names where he shouldn't.
He could use some humility.

The rest:
Is all stupid bullshit.
The libs are going off the charts with stupid stuff.
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Old September 10th, 2019, 09:36 AM   #4172
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Seem like both sides are trying to spin a tale about Trump.

The left wants everyone to think that Trump is mentally unstable, but citing X reason, and keep using words and phrases like "fumbling" and he keeps going back and forth and poking fun at messy wordplay. They make fun of his intelligence (or lack of), pick apart anything said that could remotely be not 110% accurate.

The right wants everyone to think that Trump is doing to dirty deeds that no one else will. They're comparing him to like Batman from the The Dark Knight movie (if you haven't seen it, he's taking the fall and doing what the country needs, not what it wants). Trump is the one cutting out all the rotten parts of the country and causing pain, but justifying it by saying "it will be better in the long run".

Then you've got the rest of the people. Not giving a shit what's going on because it doesn't really matter in the long run. We'll never know the truth, because neither side is actually saying it, and it doesn't fit their "agenda", so it's deemed unnecessary to report.

I see Trump as "for the greater good". I question whose good.
I see Anti-Trump as "for the greater good". I question whose good.
I like the Batman analogy.
Nadler reminds me of “The Penguin” as played by Danny Devito.
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Old September 10th, 2019, 09:48 AM   #4173
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The good:
Economy is doing good.
Unemployment is down.
North Korea has backed off from where they were. Not good but hopeful.
Mexico is starting to reduce the flow of border crossings.
China is on their heels ~ hopefully this will end well.
My personal taxes are lower.
He placed a semi-conservative judge in the SCOTUS.
We appear to be reducing our involvement in overseas senseless wars.
He is pro 2A. (for the most part)

The bad:
He continues to tweet.
He continues to pick battles and call names where he shouldn't.
He could use some humility.

The rest:
Is all stupid bullshit.
The libs are going off the charts with stupid stuff.
McCain lost to Obama because of his sense of fair play.
He would not fight. Afraid to be labeled a racist.

Mittens lost to Obama. Even in the debate, refuse to call out Obama over Russia.
He wanted to take the high road, I say he was weak. In his mind he is probably saying “I would have won if I was black”. Now he attacks Trump because it garners favor with his democrrat friends.

Trump came into the came to the game to win it.
He treated Hillary like he treats everyone else. And THAT is why he won.
She did not get a pass for being a mother, grandmother, woman or First Lady. He took the fight to her as an equal.
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There's no "if". The Trump administration has been negotiating with the Taliban.
He's basically admitting defeat and telling the Taliban that we'll completely pull out of Afghanistan if they promise not be terrorists anymore. Not exactly a strong position.

What I see is him giving up whatever strength we have in exchange for some vague promises with no way to enforce anything, kinda like he did with North Korea, just so he can make good on some campaign promise.
I did see that the Trump admin sent a strong message to terrorists held up in Iraq yesterday as a reminder. 40 tons of laser guided bombs dropped of a stronghold. Just to let them know, we see you.
I see that as position of strength. and when more of these ragheads pop themselves out of their holes we will hit them again.

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Old September 18th, 2019, 09:36 AM   #4175
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This; https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-ch...120422647.html, is why I have a problem with Trump and his tweets.
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So we are reading a Liberal news outlet who quotes an Obama official and other nations who have proven to be pussies. OK

Iran is a threat, has been a threat and will continue to be a threat. So, I guess we should just ignore them.
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So we are reading a Liberal news outlet who quotes an Obama official and other nations who have proven to be pussies. OK

Iran is a threat, has been a threat and will continue to be a threat. So, I guess we should just ignore them.
I just realized one big difference between me, and you and probably many others. To me who wrote an article, who's quoted in it, and where I read it from are irrelevant to me deciding to agree or disagree with the views expressed.

Nor does this directly have anything to do with Iran or who you think has been proven to be a pussy.

My issue with Trump here is that he does so much tweeting and rambling of using so much hyperbole and loose interpretation of facts that it's impossible to know when to believe him. Everything he says needs to be taken with a dump truck of salt.
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Old September 18th, 2019, 03:42 PM   #4178
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Maybe Joe Biden can interpret it for you.
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Maybe Joe Biden can interpret it for you.
You mean where he is going to put 720 million women back to work in a country of 340 million.
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I just realized one big difference between me, and you and probably many others. To me who wrote an article, who's quoted in it, and where I read it from are irrelevant to me deciding to agree or disagree with the views expressed.

Nor does this directly have anything to do with Iran or who you think has been proven to be a pussy.

My issue with Trump here is that he does so much tweeting and rambling of using so much hyperbole and loose interpretation of facts that it's impossible to know when to believe him. Everything he says needs to be taken with a dump truck of salt.
I don’t believe you. You never quote anything from Fox news without making fun of it.
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