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Old December 23rd, 2019, 06:45 AM   #4441
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I'll have to call to get my access to my 401k account restored. It got messed up when I changed work computers. Last time I was able to check it it was doing OK, but still just recovering from last years crash.

We'll never know how things would have been different if Clinton would have won. Speculation is pointless. Things would be a little different, better or worse would mostly depend on your point of view.

I'm not as bitter as I apparently come across here.
All we need to do is look at her track record and that would be enough to give us an idea of what type of leader she would have been. She has made a mess as SOS and her choices as First Lady are enough.

Life is too short to be bitter about stuff.
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Old December 23rd, 2019, 07:00 AM   #4442
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The guy is shit. Remove him. If he was a decent dude he wouldn't be in the position he is in. If he was a decent human most of the worlds leaders wouldn't look down on him. If he wasn't a pile of shit Billy grahams magazine wouldn't call for him to be removed.

If you support Trump you support party lines. That's what's fucked with our country. If you didn't have a team you had to align with you wouldn't have to blindly and unwaveringly support an idiot.
Im not sorry for supporting a president that wants you to succeed, make money, be safe, and proud to be an American.
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Old December 23rd, 2019, 07:41 AM   #4443
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^^^^^^^^^this right here
maybe Charmander would love North korea better.

Interesting read,

https://www.openheaven.com/2019/12/2...h6XtTC7czQULQU

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Old December 23rd, 2019, 07:57 AM   #4444
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Im not sorry for supporting a president that wants you to succeed, make money, be safe, and proud to be an American.
I agree with this.

Based on his previous post, I think people like Charmander have deep rooted issues.
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Old December 23rd, 2019, 08:31 AM   #4445
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We'll never know how things would have been different if Clinton would have won. Speculation is pointless. Things would be a little different, better or worse would mostly depend on your point of view.

I'm not as bitter as I apparently come across here.
We would never know how our alphabet intelligence agencies were working in concert with the DNC to spy on and disparage the Trump campaign, rig The election, launder money while conspiring with foreign governments.
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Old December 23rd, 2019, 02:07 PM   #4446
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I don't have deep rooted issues at all. I voted libertarian last election because I feel like both options were shit. The fact that people can be for the Trump's or Clinton's to run our country surprises me. It big business at its finest. Arguing one over the other, left or right, is a distraction to the real problems with our government. I can see how people would believe Trump has done an acceptable job, but I fail to see how people can really stand behind him and think he is doing a good job.
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Old December 23rd, 2019, 03:59 PM   #4447
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I don't have deep rooted issues at all. I voted libertarian last election because I feel like both options were shit. The fact that people can be for the Trump's or Clinton's to run our country surprises me. It big business at its finest. Arguing one over the other, left or right, is a distraction to the real problems with our government. I can see how people would believe Trump has done an acceptable job, but I fail to see how people can really stand behind him and think he is doing a good job.
First we need to gather all the facts from many sources to determine the job he is doing.
If we look to liberals sources he is the worst president of all time.
If we look to his record as being president and never a politician he learned how its done rather quickly. His policies have been tremendous for the country and the people. Mostly black and Hispanics are doing better than past presidents. Those are facts you cant argue with.
If we look to conservative sources he is doing a great job along with his faults and where he could do better.
Did you take a minute to read the link I posted? That lays out the difference between the two parties and how they would govern.
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Old December 23rd, 2019, 04:24 PM   #4448
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Im not sorry for supporting a president that wants you to succeed, make money, be safe, and proud to be an American.
I have not heard Trump say anything that differs from this ^^^^^^. He may say stupid shit to stir the pot but at the end of the day I believe he is a patriot, wants the middle class to do well, believes in national security and he thrives on regaining a better trade policy for all of us.
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Old December 23rd, 2019, 11:39 PM   #4449
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I have not heard Trump say anything that differs from this ^^^^^^. He may say stupid shit to stir the pot but at the end of the day I believe he is a patriot, wants the middle class to do well, believes in national security and he thrives on regaining a better trade policy for all of us.
Well of course he's not going to say he wants to be an evil dictator. They never come right out and say it, they always start out telling everyone what they want to hear.
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Old December 24th, 2019, 02:41 AM   #4450
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But no, I don't actually think Trump wants to be an evil dictator, although I do think he envies leaders that have absolute power over everything. I think more than anything he wants to be known as a great president. Not a bad thing, but I see him as a bit like the overindulgent parent, giving the kids what they ask for rather than what is best for them. And yes, there it is, the biggest difference between myself, and most of you. I do see one responsibility of the government in a capitalist system, to do the long term thinking that capitalist won't do, and to take care of the people that get left behind.
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But no, I don't actually think Trump wants to be an evil dictator, although I do think he envies leaders that have absolute power over everything. I think more than anything he wants to be known as a great president. Not a bad thing, but I see him as a bit like the overindulgent parent, giving the kids what they ask for rather than what is best for them. And yes, there it is, the biggest difference between myself, and most of you. I do see one responsibility of the government in a capitalist system, to do the long term thinking that capitalist won't do, and to take care of the people that get left behind.
Taking care of people left behind is not a bad thing. In fact it's a good thing.
Taking care of freeloaders is a different story. As is trying to be the world savior while forgetting our own veterans and homeless.
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Old December 24th, 2019, 06:38 AM   #4452
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But no, I don't actually think Trump wants to be an evil dictator, although I do think he envies leaders that have absolute power over everything. I think more than anything he wants to be known as a great president. Not a bad thing, but I see him as a bit like the overindulgent parent, giving the kids what they ask for rather than what is best for them. And yes, there it is, the biggest difference between myself, and most of you. I do see one responsibility of the government in a capitalist system, to do the long term thinking that capitalist won't do, and to take care of the people that get left behind.
If you have ever listened to any interview his kids have given they would tell you that he never gave them anything. Trump made them work for things they wanted. Don Jr. said the only thing his dad gave him and the other kids was a really good education.
Something your news outlets refuse to inform you about.
Don't you find it kinda odd that all the stuff you read about Trump is negative? And for the most part your opinions of him are negative. Nothing positive. I think you are missing out on the best part of this presidency.
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Old December 31st, 2019, 06:28 PM   #4453
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Itís so terrible whatís happening. You know, the left plays a tougher game, itís very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they donít play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you, I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump Ė I have the tough people, but they donít play it tough until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher.
More greatness. Thinly veiled threats of violence against those that oppose him.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...bly-next-week/

And you say I only looks a lefty media sites.
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More greatness. Thinly veiled threats of violence against those that oppose him.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...bly-next-week/

And you say I only looks a lefty media sites.
Ahhhhh, no.
Do you understand what he is talking about here?
Instead of explaining it to you, I'll let you cause I think you missed the point.
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The ten best things Trump has done in 2019.#KAG

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Obama vs. Trump stock market.

https://www.axios.com/trump-stock-ma...vn_-hY1dGzjEuk
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Ahhhhh, no.
Do you understand what he is talking about here?
Instead of explaining it to you, I'll let you cause I think you missed the point.
Yes, I often wonder just what he's blathering about.
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During the Obama years mostly big banks and corporations made good on the stock markets.
We see that with Trump policies a larger portion of working class people are benefiting from those policies.
I'm sure if Trump was able to find a cure for cancer you would say he's putting doctors out of work.
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Yes, I often wonder just what he's blathering about.
Do you ever wonder why he says what he says or do you just take the word of the liberal press?
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Do you ever wonder why he says what he says or do you just take the word of the liberal press?
I always try to figure out what he said, and don't rely on any one media source for information.
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