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Old October 22nd, 2019, 02:59 PM   #4241
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You are correct, I can't understand what you're fucking talking about.
Well there it is. One of many problems with people today.

You people don't even know what you're arguing for.
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Old October 22nd, 2019, 03:06 PM   #4242
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Well there it is. One of many problems with people today.

You people don't even know what you're arguing for.
I know what I'm arguing for. I have not been able to figure out what you're arguing for, or against.
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Old October 22nd, 2019, 03:13 PM   #4243
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Old October 22nd, 2019, 09:19 PM   #4245
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OK now that we have healthcare figured out LOL, lets get back to Trump.

How are Trumpies feeling about this whole Ukraine mess? I think that the President asking a foreign leader to investigate an American citizen, and to threaten military aide if he doesn't, should be a crime if it isn't. Especially if the ultimate goal is ot get dirt on a political rival.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 05:12 AM   #4246
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Here we go with the double standards again.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 06:03 AM   #4247
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OK now that we have healthcare figured out LOL, lets get back to Trump.

How are Trumpies feeling about this whole Ukraine mess? I think that the President asking a foreign leader to investigate an American citizen, and to threaten military aide if he doesn't, should be a crime if it isn't. Especially if the ultimate goal is ot get dirt on a political rival.
Double standard for sure.
Lets not forget that Hillary asked Ukraine to dig up dirt on Trump and paid for it.
The corruption in Ukraine is what Trump asked about getting to the bottom of and it just so happened to be Biden and his son landing a sweetheart job because he was the VP's kid. That would be paying to get access to the VP, quid-pro-quo. Also Biden told the ukraines that if they did not fire the prosecutor that was looking into hunter biden and the company he was hired by he would withhold aid funds. Joe was caught on camera saying this or bragging about it.
This is where the crime is but it is interesting how the liberals do things like this and its not big deal. Trump asks about the corruption that happened in 2016 and all of a sudden Trump broke some imaginary law that the liberals made up.
You need to look into the reporting and evidence on all sides. just saying.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 06:23 AM   #4248
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And one more thing, this whole In Secret Impeachment Hearing.
Never before has the liberals in congress go so low. They cant beat Trump in the polls so they need to make up stuff to smear him to sway public opinion.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 07:33 AM   #4249
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OK now that we have healthcare figured out LOL, lets get back to Trump.

How are Trumpies feeling about this whole Ukraine mess? I think that the President asking a foreign leader to investigate an American citizen, and to threaten military aide if he doesn't, should be a crime if it isn't. Especially if the ultimate goal is ot get dirt on a political rival.
If I comment, am I a Trumpie?

let me guess, only if I say something like:

Who gives a fawk. Absolutely nothing about that actually matters, and if you heard the President actually speaking, he was talking like he always talks. Saying shit that, he probably shouldn't, but does anyway.

No different than Biden's son. Who gives a shit about how he got his job. What difference does that actually make...like Joe Biden is the first politician to leverage his position in order to get a job for someone. *Damn, that's un-fawking-heard-of*
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 07:41 AM   #4250
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And one more thing, this whole In Secret Impeachment Hearing.
Never before has the liberals in congress go so low. They cant beat Trump in the polls so they need to make up stuff to smear him to sway public opinion.
And.... Everyone I have talked to knows it's BS, so they aren't swaying anyone.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 08:34 AM   #4251
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OK now that we have healthcare figured out LOL, lets get back to Trump.

How are Trumpies feeling about this whole Ukraine mess? I think that the President asking a foreign leader to investigate an American citizen, and to threaten military aide if he doesn't, should be a crime if it isn't. Especially if the ultimate goal is ot get dirt on a political rival.
Trumplicans.

Inherent to his right to self defense, Trump HAS AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT to investigate (through his lawyers, agents or delegates) the origins of the “Russian Collusion Delusion”. Democrats have adopted a “lynch mob” mentality that will bury any exculpatory evidence that favors Trump.

Clearly, Trump never threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine, but if they were involved in the Russian hoax, it would be appropriate to do so. It does not matter if it leads to Biden, Clinton or King Obama himself.
He is cleaning up the swamp.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 11:24 AM   #4252
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I heard that when this happened Joe wasn’t even in the race. I haven’t researched it but if true, Trump could not have been asking about a rival. And don’t say he knew he was getting in, that is called speculation - not admissible as evidence.
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Old October 24th, 2019, 07:30 AM   #4253
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And.... Everyone I have talked to knows it's BS, so they aren't swaying anyone.
There are many that don't believe the garbage coming from the left on this but there are plenty of independents and some that can be convinced that just maybe there might be some truth to this and that is what the dems are hoping for, repeat a lie often enough and people will start believing it.

they call t the wrap up smear

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Old October 24th, 2019, 11:52 AM   #4254
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I heard that when this happened Joe wasnít even in the race. I havenít researched it but if true, Trump could not have been asking about a rival. And donít say he knew he was getting in, that is called speculation - not admissible as evidence.
Not true. Joe entered the race in April, this phone call was in July.
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Not true. Joe entered the race in April, this phone call was in July.
Sleepy Joe was in the race the moment Trump won almost three years ago. Even if he didn't know it

What I find amazing is that Joe actually went after Trump on the economy in his last speech. Said Trump was bring the economy down after him and Obama worked so hard to help the American people after the horrible recession Bush left him with.
The Obama admin did terrible with the supposed recovery. Family incomes were stagnant after 8 years of the recovery with an average loss of approx. 400.00 a year.
Fast forward to 2.5 years of Trump being in office and median family income gains to just over $5000.00 average income.
But remember what we have been hearing is that Trump is in it for himself, at least that is what we hear constantly from the liberal left, media and liberal politicians.
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America needs five more years like this

Trump campaign snaps up website name for Biden's Latino outreach efforts
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The Trump campaign bought the "Todos Con Biden" (Spanish for "All with Biden") web domain name after the Biden team kicked off their Latino outreach Wednesday with that same phrase.

When people visit TodosConBiden.com, a screenshot with a picture of a cross-armed Biden looking down pops up, with a message that says, "Oops, Joe forgot about Latinos. Joe is all talk." After the message paid for by the Trump campaign shows up, visitors get redirected to the "Latinos For Trump" official site.
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Old October 26th, 2019, 11:20 PM   #4259
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Double standard for sure.
Lets not forget that Hillary asked Ukraine to dig up dirt on Trump and paid for it.
The corruption in Ukraine is what Trump asked about getting to the bottom of and it just so happened to be Biden and his son landing a sweetheart job because he was the VP's kid. That would be paying to get access to the VP, quid-pro-quo. Also Biden told the ukraines that if they did not fire the prosecutor that was looking into hunter biden and the company he was hired by he would withhold aid funds. Joe was caught on camera saying this or bragging about it.
This is where the crime is but it is interesting how the liberals do things like this and its not big deal. Trump asks about the corruption that happened in 2016 and all of a sudden Trump broke some imaginary law that the liberals made up.
You need to look into the reporting and evidence on all sides. just saying.
Ah, the good old "but look at what so-and-so on the other side did..." argument. So let's look at that.

First, Hillary. Whatever she, or her campaign, or the DNC did was not done by anyone holding public office now using government funds. We could debate the ethics of it, but it was not a crime committed while holding public office and involving government resources.

While I hate Hillary as much as the next guy and would love for her to just go away, in this case I don't think a crime was committed.

Second, Biden. He threatened to withhold financial aid from the US government to Ukraine if a they didn't fire their prosecutor-general Viktor Shokin. The right claim that he did this to help his son Hunter avoid prosecution for corruption in his involvement with a ukrainian oil company, Burisma.

There's a couple of problems with this claim. First, pretty much everyone outside of Russia knowledgeable of the situation wanted to see Shokin fired, and some were suggesting that it be a condition to more financial aid. So it was not just some idea that Biden can up with, it's what many other governments wanted. Second, the investigation he had into Burisma was into things that happened before Hunter was involved with the company. Third, there was no active investigation into Burisma at the time of this incident. Forth, the reason most wanted him fired was not to protect anyone from prosecution, but because he wasn't prosecuting anyone. They wanted someone that would be more aggressive into prosecuting those involved in corruption, thus putting Hunter more at risk.

So while I agree that creepy sleepy Joe is a buffoon and worthless and possible a corrupt politician, and his son Hunter is ever worse, with no talents besides being Joe Biden's son, and does not care how much of a conflict of interest he causes for his dad as long as he gets paid, in this incident I don't think a crime was committed.
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America needs five more years like this

Trump campaign snaps up website name for Biden's Latino outreach efforts

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...forts-n1071531
No. We need a president with integrity that will focus on the important affairs of running the government and not on what's said on late night TV or twitter.
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