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Old December 15th, 2015, 09:46 AM   #321
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Looks like it was thru hardened too hard and snapped when it got too much torsional load.
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Looks like it was thru hardened too hard and snapped when it got too much torsional load.
Hard to tell, but im going to guess that shaft is not thru hardened, just a topical heat treat. And torsional load is a vauge term, depending on abuse,ultimate,impact, and fatigue torsional loads.

If the shaft looks "clean" like cut like a knife and the shaft is defect , typically it is a impact load where the rise rate is too high for the material.

Looks like that has a little bit of everything going on, looks like the fracture started in the minor diameter of the spline(which it should) and worked its way out and comprimised the the integrity and one good impact load broke her clean off.

But to be truly analysed a quality materials lab would need to examine it
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Old December 15th, 2015, 11:10 AM   #323
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Hard to tell, but im going to guess that shaft is not thru hardened, just a topical heat treat. And torsional load is a vauge term, depending on abuse,ultimate,impact, and fatigue torsional loads.

If the shaft looks "clean" like cut like a knife and the shaft is defect , typically it is a impact load where the rise rate is too high for the material.

Looks like that has a little bit of everything going on, looks like the fracture started in the minor diameter of the spline(which it should) and worked its way out and comprimised the the integrity and one good impact load broke her clean off.

But to be truly analysed a quality materials lab would need to examine it


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Old December 15th, 2015, 02:42 PM   #324
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If I had the part I could check the material type and determine the heat treat. The way the second pic looks, the fractures within the first 1/8" or so of the surface are different so it is possibly induction hardened but I doubt it. It is very rare to induction harden a splined area as very few people grind splines. Typically a spline is never harder than about 36-40 Rc.

You can see the twist in the spline...... hence a torsional load.
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Old December 15th, 2015, 02:53 PM   #325
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Ryan we could hardness test it in the lab at school. I wanna do that with the Dana 60 shaft I snapped

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Old December 15th, 2015, 04:43 PM   #326
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I think it snapped on the landing of a jump.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #327
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The new transmission doesn't go in til next weekend so currently, it doesn't drive at all

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I lied. Apparently the Novak output shaft is shorter than the stock one so I am going to have to get an aluminum spacer cut out on the water jet.


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Old December 16th, 2015, 07:19 PM   #328
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how thick u need it to be? i have a 5/8" thick clocking ring i bought for my dana 300 swap then never used it
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Cant you just cut the stock one down?

Its done a lot as long as there is enough spline.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 08:32 PM   #330
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how thick u need it to be? i have a 5/8" thick clocking ring i bought for my dana 300 swap then never used it
I need about an inch. I didn't even think about cutting the shaft like jay said. I'll do some measuring and see what I can come up with.

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Old December 16th, 2015, 08:34 PM   #331
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yea i think jay is on to something cutting the shaft will prolly be the best option.
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Yep, as long as I can cut through it with an angle grinder, no way I'm taking the whole transmission back apart to cut the output shaft haha.

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You shouldn't have any issues cutting thru it with an angle grinder

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Old December 16th, 2015, 10:02 PM   #334
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You shouldn't have any issues cutting thru it with an angle grinder

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Old December 17th, 2015, 09:37 AM   #336
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Just like cutting down a cromo axle shaft lol
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Well I successfully went over budget on a really nice 05 dodge ram 1500. 5.7 hemi with a lift, new 33s, exhaust and so on. The hemi really makes the light regular cab short bed truck move. I'm half way back from Florida and so far no complaints.


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Old January 2nd, 2016, 09:08 AM   #339
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Oooo I like that. Said you got it in down in Florida? Looks too clean
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Old January 2nd, 2016, 09:57 AM   #340
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Wow! What a clean looking truck! Check into coating the frame and exposed parts. I used chassis saver and have had lots of luck. But if you did anything, it would help preserve it. Ziebart is $500 to have it done.


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