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Old December 4th, 2019, 02:08 PM   #1
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I bought a TJ with a front D44 identified by the shape of the dif cover. It has an ARB locker (not electric). I'm guessing it's a Rubicon axle but I don't know how to confirm. It has the following in the casting below the pinion.



C.A. Danaven (Dana Venezuela)

43053 or 48053

S.H.E. 3



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TJ rubicon's were factory air lockers correct? It wasnt til JK's came around that they did electric

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I don’t know. I thought they were all electric. But this is an ARB.
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my 44 out of a Rubicon is an air locker
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my 44 out of a Rubicon is an air locker
Good to know. I don't know that the air locker in the dif is an ARB. For all I know it's an OEM Rubicon and it is just operated by an aftermarket ARB switch and compressor.
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all tj and lj were air lockers, but not arbs.
all jk were electric lockers, but not elockers.

make sure its an arb and not a factory air locker.
they are very different. factory lockers lock with 3 to 5 psi.
arb locks at a much higher psi.
the factory locker will be damaged with too much psi pumped in.

with the cast drivers side upper control arms mount i assume its a factory tj housing.

the air line connection on yours looks a bit different than my ljr.
is there and electrical harness that goes to the axle as well?

is there a drain plug in the bottom of the housing to drain the oil?
factory rubicon axles had this, many aftermarket housings will not.

i was under the impression many south american tjs were dana 44 front, long b4 the rubicon was released in the us.
perhaps someone imported a housing? random idea?

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all tj and lj were air lockers, but not arbs.
all jk were electric lockers, but not elockers.

make sure its an arb and not a factory air locker.
they are very different. factory lockers lock with 3 to 5 psi.
arb locks at a much higher psi.
the factory locker will be damaged with too much psi pumped in.

with the cast drivers side upper control arms mount i assume its a factory tj housing.

the air line connection on yours looks a bit different than my ljr.
is there and electrical harness that goes to the axle as well?

is there a drain plug in the bottom of the housing to drain the oil?
factory rubicon axles had this, many aftermarket housings will not.

i was under the impression many south american tjs were dana 44 front, long b4 the rubicon was released in the us.
perhaps someone imported a housing? random idea?
Great info Joe. I don't think it has the drain plug but will look. With the danavez casting, it might be a South American tj.

This rig has been functioning like this for years so I doubt the over pressure is an issue. I bought it from a doctor who doesn't know what he has other than he was "told" that it had ARB's in it.

It's definitely a D44 so it's either a Rubicon axle or came from something different than a TJ.

I don't believe non-Rubicons came with D44's???

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I think you could be onto something in regards to it being an imported axle, No, no other Jeep besides a Rubicon got a 44 front(In America)(87 and up).

It's certainly not aftermarket but clearly Jeep specific.

It's also certainly not a standard 03-06 Rubi44. Ill attach some pics for reference, just notice the differences between the castings. (pics attached) Plus the lack of drain plug in the housing.

Another thing that's just curious but no real evidence per say, the cover is an old school looking cover. As well as that fill plug they haven't used that style in years. That could easily indicate it being imported and due to possibly lack of technology or up to date, or it could be nothing. Maybe it's as easy as it's a thick cover someone swapped on. Curious no less.
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Typically all Dana housings have a B.O.M. (bill of materials) number stamped on the longer of the axle tubes, same side as the inspection cover. Usually it is stamped about 5-7 inches away from the edge of the inspection cover itself. The numbers are about a 1/4" tall, and typically will be a 6-8 total digit code starting with a 6. Usually 90's and later front end B.O.M.'s start with a 61 (ex. 611297 is from a 03-04 TJ Rubicon). If you have any luck finding that number let me know, and I will happily dig and see if I can get you anymore info on it. If it is an import housing and the number comes up as a dead end, worst case I can always call our source through Dana Tech, and see if they can uncover anything additional also.
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Jeep is not on the hoist anymore so I haven't looked for the drain plug but the different castings are interesting.

Where is the air line input on the Rubi axle?
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Typically all Dana housings have a B.O.M. (bill of materials) number stamped on the longer of the axle tubes, same side as the inspection cover. Usually it is stamped about 5-7 inches away from the edge of the inspection cover itself. The numbers are about a 1/4" tall, and typically will be a 6-8 total digit code starting with a 6. Usually 90's and later from end B.O.M.'s start with a 61 (ex. 611297 is from a 03-04 TJ Rubicon). If you have any luck finding that number let me know, and I will happily dig and see if I can get you anymore info on it. If it is an import housing and the number comes up as a dead end, worst case I can always call our source through Dana Tech, and see if they can uncover anything additional also.
Awesome! Probably can't get under it till this weekend.
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Right here... Basically right below the UCA mount. It comes out as a 90 degree bend and points back towards the engine. Ill look for another pic
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Based on those pics, I definitely do NOT have a Rubicon axle.

So what other D44 could it be if not an import?
@Tab, do you know where he had the axle work done?
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I dont know, but hurry up and get this figured out so you can buy my 4340 shafts!

Correct me if I am wrong, but that UCA mount looks like it was cast into the housing and NOT somebody welded it into place?

If this answer is yes, I think the only other plausible solution is it's an import. I mean If were aftermarket it certainly wouldn't look so "stock" would it?

My last ditch effort, is there a spot on the long side tube on the front side where it looked like a tag may have been affixed to it? Back in the day, Currie used to make D44 axles, but I still recall them being considerably different than a factory looking casting.

I digress. Keep us in the loop I am super curious.
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This weekend.

I know you are anxious to get those useless shafts out of your garage. Just ship them to me and I will store them.
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Old December 5th, 2019, 01:18 PM   #16
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Found this on a quick google search of "XJ/TJ Dana 44 Venezuela" on a Jeep Liberty forum.

"The export rear D44 arenīt a myth. I'm in Venezuela and all KJ came with OEM rear DANA 44. In Venezuela there is a Dana plant called DANAVEN, and they make most of the axle for jeeps. All the jeeps made in Venezuela (cj, yj, xj, kj, kk, etc) came with OEM rear Dana 44, there isn't any Chrysler 8.25 here. I'll upload some pictures of my 2005 KJ to show you itīs a Dana 44...

Inclusive, all XJ's made in Venezuela came with front high pinion Dana 44 (wms to wms: 60" and 5 x 4.5" bolt pattern) so it could be a nice axle to SFA our KJ's..."


Looks like Jeep built XJ's in Venezuela and many of them used D44 front axles. It could be from one of those? Is it high pinion or low pinion?

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I dont know, but hurry up and get this figured out so you can buy my 4340 shafts!

Correct me if I am wrong, but that UCA mount looks like it was cast into the housing and NOT somebody welded it into place?

If this answer is yes, I think the only other plausible solution is it's an import. I mean If were aftermarket it certainly wouldn't look so "stock" would it?

My last ditch effort, is there a spot on the long side tube on the front side where it looked like a tag may have been affixed to it? Back in the day, Currie used to make D44 axles, but I still recall them being considerably different than a factory looking casting.

I digress. Keep us in the loop I am super curious.
From what I've found, it looks like Currie used to use these export Dana 44 housings for some of their axles. https://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=76061

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Nice info.
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https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep...ront-axle.html

Found this, but pictures are broken.
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Hmm. And mine is a hi pinion
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Well, crap, I missed the part that it was a high pinion. That's a game changer.

This is pretty exciting! So my shafts will fit considering it's standard width!
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