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Old December 19th, 2016, 02:13 PM   #21
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Old December 19th, 2016, 02:23 PM   #22
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Old December 19th, 2016, 06:04 PM   #24
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Absolutely get an attorney and let them plea bargain it down to something without points. Don't go to court by yourself. Looking at probably $125 for the lawyer and some petty fine, plus no points. Again, do not admit guilt. Do not go to trial. Do not go at it alone. The attorneys and the prosecutors do this all day. Your son has good things going for him, which your attorney will ask about and use when he deals with the prosecutor. It is how the system works. You have to play the game to win.
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I do not agree with lawyering up. He's a kid who got a ticket. Go to court, face the music and learn from it. Spending money to hire a lawyer to protect junior is what has made our snowflake society.
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Old December 19th, 2016, 06:41 PM   #26
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Old December 19th, 2016, 07:58 PM   #27
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I do not agree with lawyering up. He's a kid who got a ticket. Go to court, face the music and learn from it. Spending money to hire a lawyer to protect junior is what has made our snowflake society.
If he was driving safely then he deserves the same deal an intentionally careless person could receive. Why punish the kid for driving safely?
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BUT he wasn't driving safely. He went around a corner and slid into a vehicle. Therefore, he did not have his vehicle under control. Thankfully no one was hurt but what if someone was riding a bicycle or walking and he hit and killed them?

I'm not out to get the kid but now is the time for him to learn that life has consequences. Good lord, it's a basic ticket, not a life sentence.

Now, just so you know I'm not just spouting off on this, I have two adult daughters who both had minor accidents shortly after they started driving. One did the same as the OP, went around a corner too fast on snowy roads and hit someone. She learned. The other rear ended a dump truck and smashed the front of her truck. She also learned.

If a kid is old enough to drive alone, they are old enough to learn that life has consequences. Daddy shouldn't be rushing out to hire a lawyer to protect them.
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BUT he wasn't driving safely. He went around a corner and slid into a vehicle. Therefore, he did not have his vehicle under control. Thankfully no one was hurt but what if someone was riding a bicycle or walking and he hit and killed them?

I'm not out to get the kid but now is the time for him to learn that life has consequences. Good lord, it's a basic ticket, not a life sentence.

Now, just so you know I'm not just spouting off on this, I have two adult daughters who both had minor accidents shortly after they started driving. One did the same as the OP, went around a corner too fast on snowy roads and hit someone. She learned. The other rear ended a dump truck and smashed the front of her truck. She also learned.

If a kid is old enough to drive alone, they are old enough to learn that life has consequences. Daddy shouldn't be rushing out to hire a lawyer to protect them.
I get what you are saying. The consequences for this minor accident are not life shattering. However, I believe that a new driver is probably terrified by the experience and has hence learned something the hard way. The Taco Bell money should go toward everything associated with the incident. That is paying for your actions. However, paying for an attorney and getting a plea bargain to reduce or remove points is the answer to the OP's question.
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He will go to court I thank everyone for the input. I wont hire a lawyer for this, hope the points will be dropped and he will only have to pay a fine. Also hope his insurance doesn't go up, I imagine it will. Damn kids who thought they where a good idea anyway???
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My kids have given me frustration from time to time but I have never regretted having them. Family time is precious.
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My kids have given me frustration from time to time but I have never regretted having them. Family time is precious.
That was sarcasm, I wouldn't have it any other way either.
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