Black Friday Man Deals?

[Lousypirate]

Dammit. Should have waited on my winters.




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[whiterhino]

Need to find a new garage door opener. Any suggestions?

[jeepfreak81]

Originally Posted by whiterhino

Need to find a new garage door opener. Any suggestions?

I've been curious about the Liftmaster wall mounts. Nothing overhead to deal with.

[jpr Jeremy]

Originally Posted by jeepfreak81

I've been curious about the Liftmaster wall mounts. Nothing overhead to deal with.

I’ve been in the garage door industry for 20 years, and our company has been a liftmaster dealer for over 30 years.

Those operators are very temperamental and they’re prone to throwing cables. The doors have to be balanced 100% perfect, and they don’t seem do well with wide doors. I won’t even install a demo model that was given to me on my own door.

You can’t go wrong with the new liftmaster 8160 DC chain drives, they’re super quiet and smooth running, they have a strong single piece T-rail, and they’re cheaper than the 8500 side mounts. They come WiFi ready out of the box, you can control them on your phone from anywhere in the world.


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[whiterhino]

Originally Posted by jpr Jeremy

I’ve been in the garage door industry for 20 years, and our company has been a liftmaster dealer for over 30 years.

Those operators are very temperamental and they’re prone to throwing cables. The doors have to be balanced 100% perfect, and they don’t seem do well with wide doors. I won’t even install a demo model that was given to me on my own door.

You can’t go wrong with the new liftmaster 8160 DC chain drives, they’re super quiet and smooth running, they have a strong single piece T-rail, and they’re cheaper than the 8500 side mounts. They come WiFi ready out of the box, you can control them on your phone from anywhere in the world.


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Good to know. I have a 18' wide door and I'm currently set up for a center rail anyway. I'm just starting to do research so I only know about the box store models. Who sells lift master? edit: I see them on line and they say no rail but yet you say it has a T-rail. Can you explain?

Is the wfi thing really something that people use? Why do I need to operate my garage door remotely?

My biggest issue is that I have a Genie right now. When my whole house generator kicks on, it sends a frequency thru the wires that opens my garage door. We have gotten up in the middle of the night and/or come home to find our garage wide open and the heat blasting. Because of that, we now unplug our door opener any time we are going away over night.

[jpr Jeremy]

@whiterhino You’ll have to find a dealer in your area to get the liftmaster line. Ward Bros in Davison might carry them, I can’t remember off hand. You can get them in Linden at Robert Zurrell co, they’ve been our exclusive distributor for ever. I know tom77cj5 also sold liftmaster.

The T-rail is a solid rail whereas your genie or other box store openers are all pieced together rails, which flex more and become weak over time. And honestly your box store models aren’t made to last long. It amazes me how much they drop the quality on the box store rails and related components.

The WiFi deal is nice because in your situation if the door were to open while you were gone it would alert your phone and you’d be able to close it. The good thing is liftmasters don’t have that problem when the power goes out and comes back on. We’ve had several complaints about the genies doing that.


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[whiterhino]

Ok. All makes sense. So why is it when I look up that model on line it says no rail? That’s confusing. Does it come with all required parts or not?

[greygoose]

I've always been partial to Chamberlain myself. After I found out they made Craftsman garage door openers I started buying them at Menards.

[jpr Jeremy]

Originally Posted by whiterhino

Ok. All makes sense. So why is it when I look up that model on line it says no rail? That’s confusing. Does it come with all required parts or not?

It honestly might be for shipping purposes, as the rails are 10’ long on a 7’ and 11’ long on an 8’ opener.


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[jpr Jeremy]

Originally Posted by greygoose

I've always been partial to Chamberlain myself. After I found out they made Craftsman garage door openers I started buying them at Menards.

You’re absolutely right. Chamberlain also makes the liftmaster line, which is their “professional line”, but you can usually go to a real garage door company and get a higher quality version for the same price or cheaper than the box stores sell them. Don’t get me wrong, chamberlain makes a good opener but their pieced together rails are shit compared to the liftmaster T-rail.


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[Mihlfeldl2005]

I now know more about garage door openers than I ever needed to

[JohnnyJ]

Back on the original topic, East Coast Gear Supply did do the 10% discount on my whole order. I picked up front and rear yokes, a lube locker, shaved 14-bolt gears and a 14-bolt solid spacer so I don't have to mess with the crush sleeve.

[whiterhino]

Originally Posted by jpr Jeremy

You’re absolutely right. Chamberlain also makes the liftmaster line, which is their “professional line”, but you can usually go to a real garage door company and get a higher quality version for the same price or cheaper than the box stores sell them. Don’t get me wrong, chamberlain makes a good opener but their pieced together rails are shit compared to the liftmaster T-rail.


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Back on the off topic topic, I've never had an issue with a multi piece rail. But the real question, (just to make Johnny happy ) is where can I get a great Black Friday deal on an opener.

Great news John! Get that thing done. tick tock tick tock

[Bones]

Originally Posted by jpr Jeremy

@whiterhino You’ll have to find a dealer in your area to get the liftmaster line. Ward Bros in Davison might carry them, I can’t remember off hand. You can get them in Linden at Robert Zurrell co, they’ve been our exclusive distributor for ever. I know tom77cj5 also sold liftmaster.

The T-rail is a solid rail whereas your genie or other box store openers are all pieced together rails, which flex more and become weak over time. And honestly your box store models aren’t made to last long. It amazes me how much they drop the quality on the box store rails and related components.

The WiFi deal is nice because in your situation if the door were to open while you were gone it would alert your phone and you’d be able to close it. The good thing is liftmasters don’t have that problem when the power goes out and comes back on. We’ve had several complaints about the genies doing that.


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any recommendations for a VERY budget friendly non-fancy shmancy opener for a 10x10 door? Will only be used once a week or so.

[SHARPMACHINE]

Originally Posted by jpr Jeremy

I’ve been in the garage door industry for 20 years, and our company has been a liftmaster dealer for over 30 years.

Those operators are very temperamental and they’re prone to throwing cables. The doors have to be balanced 100% perfect, and they don’t seem do well with wide doors. I won’t even install a demo model that was given to me on my own door.

You can’t go wrong with the new liftmaster 8160 DC chain drives, they’re super quiet and smooth running, they have a strong single piece T-rail, and they’re cheaper than the 8500 side mounts. They come WiFi ready out of the box, you can control them on your phone from anywhere in the world.


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True story about the lift master. Put one up a year ago since I needed a torsion mount unit. It was very easy to install, but very finicky. I am also glad I got the extended warranty because I have already replaced the encoder on it. Hopefully I am now set, or at-least know enough about it to repair it as things come up....

Originally Posted by Bones

any recommendations for a VERY budget friendly non-fancy shmancy opener for a 10x10 door? Will only be used once a week or so.

Chamberlain from Menards or just open it by hand.....

[greygoose]

Originally Posted by SHARPMACHINE

Chamberlain from Menards or just open it by hand.....

[whiterhino]

Originally Posted by Bones

any recommendations for a VERY budget friendly non-fancy shmancy opener for a 10x10 door? Will only be used once a week or so.

You just made a shit ton of money off of some guy, go buy yourself a nice one.

[jpr Jeremy]

Originally Posted by Bones

any recommendations for a VERY budget friendly non-fancy shmancy opener for a 10x10 door? Will only be used once a week or so.

Just go to an actual garage door business and get a 10’ liftmaster at retail, not installed price if it’s something you plan on installing yourself. At a box store you’re gonna buy a 7’ opener for $x and then they’ll sell you an extension plus another chain for $x...at that point your paying more than the price of the 10’ from a door business.


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[jpr Jeremy]

Originally Posted by whiterhino

Back on the off topic topic, I've never had an issue with a multi piece rail. But the real question, (just to make Johnny happy ) is where can I get a great Black Friday deal on an opener.



Great news John! Get that thing done. tick tock tick tock

The multi pc rails are thin gauge square tube that slide together, plastic trolley, real thin plastic front pulley that wears out fast, and they are half chain/half thin cable that’s prone to breaking at the loops. The one pc rails have full length chain and a steel trolley assembly.


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[Bones]

Originally Posted by whiterhino

You just made a shit ton of money off of some guy, go buy yourself a nice one.

we have different scales for money amounts....

I do want a nice one that will last forever, i don't need frilly fruity wifi bluetooth options like some other old timers. Do you even know how to use a smart phone?