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JeepHeap July 17th, 2017 07:55 AM

The Taz
 
9/4/18: New tub (post 75)

1/25/19: New drivetrain (Kingpin 60, 14b, 5.3l LS, 4l60e, Atlas II, and rear 4 link) (post 102)

Hi everyone, this is my first thread. I'm 13 and just got my first jeep!!

The jeep is a 1984 Jeep CJ7, disassembled inline 6 and 4 speed. The jeep is in pretty rough condition and needs a lot of work. Along with repairs, build plans include:

05+ Super Duty Dana 60
05+ Sterling 10.5
3 link front
XJ rear leaf springs
Chevy 350
SM465
NP205
Aluminum Super Duty wheels
37” Cooper STT Pros

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All loaded up and ready to go home!!

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John D July 17th, 2017 07:58 AM

This is going to be a lot of fun!

whiterhino July 17th, 2017 08:13 AM

Good luck with it!

VAhasnoWAVES July 17th, 2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by John D (Post 6262041)
This is going to be a lot of fun!

its been hard to tell which one of you two is more excited.

adamrz July 17th, 2017 11:27 AM

awesome! congrats on the Jeep. Looking forward to seeing the build.

SHARPMACHINE July 17th, 2017 11:33 AM

Looks like a great start!!!!

JohnnyJ July 17th, 2017 12:26 PM

Look forward to the build.

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laxman1306 July 17th, 2017 02:47 PM

looks fun, I'm sure It'l turn out as awesome as the xj.

John D July 17th, 2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VAhasnoWAVES (Post 6262201)
its been hard to tell which one of you two is more excited.

I keep hearing this from the smart one in our family (his mom), lol.

Booster July 17th, 2017 05:44 PM

Keep us up to date on the progress.

Kegger83cj7 July 17th, 2017 09:01 PM

Good to see another CJ in the area. Congrats and good luck.

capone July 17th, 2017 09:36 PM

Awesome Congrats on the project!

JeepHeap July 18th, 2017 05:53 PM

What was left of the engine had to go to make room for a v8!

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And had to get the grill back on to make me feel good

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JohnnyJ July 18th, 2017 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepHeap (Post 6263065)
What was left of the engine had to go to make room for a v8!

Looked almost ready to fire... what a waste. :teehee:

But on a serious note, if you ever want to get rid of those tires, let me know.

JeepHeap July 20th, 2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyJ (Post 6263089)
Looked almost ready to fire... what a waste. :teehee:



But on a serious note, if you ever want to get rid of those tires, let me know.



I've been thinking really hard about this, but I can not part with these tires. :)


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JeepHeap August 5th, 2017 06:56 PM

Had a great day in the barn today working on the Jeep. Gutted the engine bay, pulled the wiring harness, pulled the fenders and grill, and pulled the transmission and transfer case.

Disappointed to find that we have a T4 and not a T176 transmission, if anybody knows of a T176 for sale, please let me know

We knew the frame was rough but it's a lot worst than we thought, we've been scouting decent used frames and we've decided to build a frame instead. We are thinking 2x4 3/16.

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busyfixin August 9th, 2017 09:29 PM

Very cool. My first ride was a red 83 CJ7, although mine was a 4 cylinder and also had a T-4 transmission.

Booster August 10th, 2017 07:12 AM

Look forward to updates,

JeepHeap August 19th, 2017 06:08 PM

Today, once again, we had a very productive day in the barn. Got the shocks off, took off the body armor, took out the steering column, and took off the body and everything that had to go to get it off the frame.

The tub is in way better condition than we thought I would be in. All it really needs is a clean up and new floors all around.

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Just because the body is off, doesn't mean I am not going to daydream about driving it and attempt it.

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JeepHeap August 27th, 2017 05:46 PM

Project Heep CJ7
 
Well, we solved problem of the unexpected T4 transmission!! Made a little road trip last week and grabbed this little gem.

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It is an SM465 and NP205

We also cleaned and sorted parts for storage until we need them.

Lastly, we moved the tub outside to start stripping the frame.

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JohnnyJ August 27th, 2017 08:25 PM

Nice

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JeepHeap September 3rd, 2017 01:57 PM

Unluckily, this weekend our fun got cut a little short and we only had an hour or so to work on the jeep.

In the short amount of time we got to work on it, we did get the axles off of the frame.

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We also got a little help from the dog.

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John D September 3rd, 2017 08:06 PM

Time to get busy building a frame!!


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Dave Kerwin September 5th, 2017 09:12 AM

fun

John D September 20th, 2017 09:41 AM

Project Heep CJ7
 
We are leaning towards building a 609 using 05+ Ford SD outers and axles. The only real issue I see is the tube diameter of the SD60 is 3.75" while the diameter of the 9 is 3" making the inside diameter of the inner C's too big. I'm not a machinist, but imagine we are able to overcome this. So, to our machinist/fabricator friends... what would be some methods to work around this?


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Kegger83cj7 September 23rd, 2017 11:01 PM

If you plan on selling the axles let me know. I would be interested. Thanks.

Looks good by the way.

JeepHeap September 24th, 2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kegger83cj7 (Post 6293353)
If you plan on selling the axles let me know. I would be interested. Thanks.

Looks good by the way.



I'm 99% sure they will be for sale on Saturday and I will let you know.


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Kegger83cj7 September 24th, 2017 11:48 AM

Please do. I really need a front to get mine going. Thanks.

Kegger83cj7 September 24th, 2017 11:52 AM

You have a PM sir.

Wramblerguy September 28th, 2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by John D (Post 6291625)
We are leaning towards building a 609 using 05+ Ford SD outers and axles. The only real issue I see is the tube diameter of the SD60 is 3.75" while the diameter of the 9 is 3" making the inside diameter of the inner C's too big. I'm not a machinist, but imagine we are able to overcome this. So, to our machinist/fabricator friends... what would be some methods to work around this?


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It wouldn’t be hard to make a 3” ID 3.75” OD sleeve.
What is the ID of the super duty axle tube? You might be able to find someone that could bore it out to 3” and that way you wouldn’t even have to cut the weld on the knuckle

John D September 28th, 2017 10:34 AM

Project Heep CJ7
 
ID of the SD tube is 2.75" however been researching more and now considering chopping up the SD axle to make it into a passenger drop standard width and using stock axles . I found a supplier with reasonable pricing for the 2.75" DOM that I can use as an internal sleeve. Standby for more to come...


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JohnnyJ September 28th, 2017 10:44 AM

Previously built a 9" with spidertrax 3.5" housing and used the sleeve method on the 05 super duty outers. Sold that rig, but it worked for me.

My 05 super duty is 3.75 OD, 3/8 wall. Not sure if the 10-lug stuff has thicker tubes.

I have looked at online builds where they grafted the two tubes together. Sometime using a slug for alignment and extra metal to weld to.

John D September 28th, 2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyJ (Post 6294713)
I have looked at online builds where they grafted the two tubes together. Sometime using a slug for alignment and extra metal to weld to.


This is what I'm thinking too. Considering there aren't many out there, we probably looked at the same builds.



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VAhasnoWAVES September 28th, 2017 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John D (Post 6294697)
ID of the SD tube is 2.75" however been researching more and now considering chopping up the SD axle to make it into a passenger drop standard width and using stock axles . I found a supplier with reasonable pricing for the 2.75" DOM that I can use as an internal sleeve. Standby for more to come...


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John D September 30th, 2017 02:19 PM

Jack will update later, but we have a pair of wide track axles for sale. 2.72 ratio and both open. Code D is stamped on the rear and assuming the front is the original match. $250 for the pair and they are available now. Adding them to Craigslist and the for sale section tomorrow.

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JeepHeap September 30th, 2017 06:02 PM

Project Heep CJ7
 
Today was a very good day for my Heep. Today, I bought 2005+ ford super duty axles. The rear has a locker, they were $250 out the door and were VERY heavy.

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John D October 14th, 2017 09:17 AM

Sold the CJ axles last week and now the original chrome wheels and Kelly Safari A-T 31x10.50/15 tires are for sale.


JeepHeap November 13th, 2017 04:08 PM

Marching band season is finally coming to an end after four long months!!! We took 1st in State’s this year and we are marching in the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day in NYC next week, it was an awesome year for sure.

Anyway, we are ordering the frame material so we get started and I’m wonder if anyone has opinions. The front and rear will be 2 x 4 x .125 and the center will be 2 x 6 to help get closer to flat. I’m wondering if I should go .188” for the center or will .125” be thick enough. What do you think?



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Cpyonker November 13th, 2017 04:15 PM

I’d go .188 for the Center a little extra beef can’t hurt


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Kegger83cj7 November 13th, 2017 10:37 PM

I think you will be glad to have heavier wall with the V8 and heavy axles. More material to weld and mount links and cross members. Less twist under stress. Etc.


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