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Old July 30th, 2008, 06:19 PM   #1
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Found a log home we're interested in and wonder what the upkeep is (rumor has it that it is horrible and expensive)

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Old July 30th, 2008, 06:25 PM   #2
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I forgot to mention that this post is SFW. Thank you.
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you're talking about huge wood, how is that SFW?

To add to your post I have also heard there CAN be a lot of upkeep with a log home just as there CAN be with any other home. keep up on the basics year after year and you may be ok.
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Yeah, lots of up keep. Not just treating the wood, but keeping the stuff in between the logs because of all the temperature and humidity changes cause a lot of moving of the logs and the chicking (I don't thing I spelled that right) starts to become loose and falling out.
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Shawn - it's "Chinking" and it seems there are some good products out there (PermaChink )
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I have not personally had to maintain one, but there are several up by my parents. They are more maintenance than other types of construction, but you are young. The trick is to control decay. To stop decay, you need to keep water out. That means insecticides, caulking, and sealing.

Look at the design of the house you are looking at. The savior of log homes is good overhangs and high foundations. They keep the water off the wood. Take a pick of some type and poke around the foundation and anyplace it looks like water may run down the wood. If there is soft spots, there is rot, and water is getting into the wood.
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My folks built a log home 10 years ago in Holy. Theirs doesn't required any chinking and the only general maintenance that it requires is staining about every 4 or 5 years, which is no different than any home with wood siding that you want to look nice. They are great at holding in the cool air in the summer and heat in the winter...
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Old July 31st, 2008, 06:21 AM   #10
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That means insecticides, caulking, and sealing.

Look at the design of the house you are looking at. The savior of log homes is good overhangs and high foundations. They keep the water off the wood. Take a pick of some type and poke around the foundation and anyplace it looks like water may run down the wood. If there is soft spots, there is rot, and water is getting into the wood.
Well, I do love the caulk, that's for sure.

Your last paragraph is some awesome common-sense info that I didn't have the brains to think of and also gives me hope for the house.

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Yeah, lots of up keep. Not just treating the wood, but keeping the stuff in between the logs because of all the temperature and humidity changes cause a lot of moving of the logs and the chicking (I don't thing I spelled that right) starts to become loose and falling out.
And you know all this for a fact, eh?
I've been living in one for 5 years and we've experienced none of that.
Depends on how you start out. Our's is a Barna which is kiln-dried for 6 weeks before they bring it up here. It's put together at their mill first before loading it onto their truck.
There is no chinking needed since the logs are actually tongue & groove and fit together with weather stripping between them. 12" lag bolts are used to hold them in place. The only issue you have is in the first couple years when it settles you may have some interior doors that don't close right until the jacks are adjusted. The interior walls are actually floating so they raise and fall with the logs.
Now, heat and air conditioning is pretty cheap. How many of you have your air conditioners on this year? I don't. Haven't needed it yet. The logs take 6 months to change temperature from the outside to the inside. This is the highest R factor that you can get. We can stay right around 70-75 deg. inside most of the summer without using our air.
What else do you want to know?
Oh yes, heat. We have propane out here and fill our tank twice/year which is also a matter of preference. If you like your house hot, you may need more propane. We tend to not like it hot so we keep it in the 60s all winter.
Exterior upkeep is simple. You stain it with Sikkens meant for log homes. The interior same thing. We used water-based clear on the inside. No wallpaper or drywall here so never anything to do on the interior again.
Cracks or splits will appear in the logs on the inside and outside but you fill them with Conceal which shrinks and grows with the logs. You don't have to do it on the inside of you don't want to.
Our's is 2000 sq. ft. and the original package was $99,000. That included the walls and the roof package. We bought the doors and windows from a Port Huron lumber company and the hardwood flooring and tongue and groove for the walls came from a lumber mill in W. Branch. It was cheaper to go local for those.

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you're talking about huge wood, how is that SFW?

To add to your post I have also heard there CAN be a lot of upkeep with a log home just as there CAN be with any other home. keep up on the basics year after year and you may be ok.
I had more upkeep with my brick ranch with the wet plaster walls than I do with my log home.
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And you know all this for a fact, eh?
I've been living in one for 5 years and we've experienced none of that.
Depends on how you start out. Our's is a Barna which is kiln-dried for 6 weeks before they bring it up here. It's put together at their mill first before loading it onto their truck.
There is no chinking needed since the logs are actually tongue & groove and fit together with weather stripping between them. 12" lag bolts are used to hold them in place. The only issue you have is in the first couple years when it settles you may have some interior doors that don't close right until the jacks are adjusted. The interior walls are actually floating so they raise and fall with the logs.
Now, heat and air conditioning is pretty cheap. How many of you have your air conditioners on this year? I don't. Haven't needed it yet. The logs take 6 months to change temperature from the outside to the inside. This is the highest R factor that you can get. We can stay right around 70-75 deg. inside most of the summer without using our air.
What else do you want to know?
Oh yes, heat. We have propane out here and fill our tank twice/year which is also a matter of preference. If you like your house hot, you may need more propane. We tend to not like it hot so we keep it in the 60s all winter.
Exterior upkeep is simple. You stain it with Sikkens meant for log homes. The interior same thing. We used water-based clear on the inside. No wallpaper or drywall here so never anything to do on the interior again.
Cracks or splits will appear in the logs on the inside and outside but you fill them with Conceal which shrinks and grows with the logs. You don't have to do it on the inside of you don't want to.
Our's is 2000 sq. ft. and the original package was $99,000. That included the walls and the roof package. We bought the doors and windows from a Port Huron lumber company and the hardwood flooring and tongue and groove for the walls came from a lumber mill in W. Branch. It was cheaper to go local for those.

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Barna, thats what my folks have and they love it....NO chinking at all!!!! top quality and beautiful....
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This was 2 years ago - the quickest photo I could find right now. I have hundreds and don't know where they end up.
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Well, I do love the caulk, that's for sure.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 08:10 PM   #16
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the chinking needs to be done every 2-3 years. even with perma chink the last time we did it. it is a great product but still needs to be taken care of. the log home is alot of work regarding sanding it all and staining it again. i have built 3 of them as of now.
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the chinking needs to be done every 2-3 years. even with perma chink the last time we did it. it is a great product but still needs to be taken care of. the log home is alot of work regarding sanding it all and staining it again. i have built 3 of them as of now.
A guy I worked with at GM bought a log home that was 12 years old. When he put the "molasses" (Sikkens 2/3) on it over the previous coat there was no sanding needed. You have to be sure to use the proper Sikkens products 1 & 2/3. The 2/3 is the really thick finishing coat. A painter friend says the best way to stay on top of the whole thing is what he suggests (what he does on his own house) is paint 1 side - usually the south side, on year 5, next year move to the next side. Never spend an entire summer on your whole house. The only side we have trouble with is the N. side since there's a slope over there. The porch walls are simple. We have full porches on the east and west side. S. side is simple. The only sanding we needed to do were on the window sills.

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Now, I still want to know why you say chinking is needed. It's a matter of personal taste if you have logs that fit like in the photo. I just took that a few minutes ago.

I got all irritated when I went outside to take that photo since I found out my cat barfed in my sandle and there was a doe eating something out in our garden.
Is it deer season yet?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:02 AM   #18
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What a day.

Thank you for all of the information! Not sure on the construction, other than it is built out of whole pine trees without the t&g fit.

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nice house. all the homes i built were not t&g as scooter stated. those chinking and the strip shink over time dry up and crack where it needs to be done.
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Wow, that's a beautiful house!
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