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Chevy/GMC 2500HD with a durmax/ Allison combo 59 29.35%
Dodger 2500 Heavy Duty with the Cummins 84 41.79%
Ford F-250 SuperDuty PowerStroke 58 28.86%
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Old December 14th, 2005, 02:16 AM   #61
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just a question but what falls apart on dodge trucks?
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Old December 14th, 2005, 11:17 AM   #62
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just a question but what falls apart on dodge trucks?
Step bars, Bumper trim, and the seat
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Old December 17th, 2005, 06:51 AM   #63
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no, thats just abuse..
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Old December 18th, 2005, 11:12 AM   #64
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If you throw a chip/power programmer in a DURAMAX it does like 12.9's in the quarter mile and thats just freakin sweet.
not to mention it can tow just about anything there is .

Thats not true....I mean, it'll haul a$$, but not 12.9's. To get into the 12's with a duramax you would need to do something like this:

Programmer (PPE Hot Xcellerator) stacked with a chip (Edge Juice), a Suncoast or ATS Stage V Transmission, Blocked EGR valve, Turbo down pipe, and a few other misc things.
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Old December 18th, 2005, 11:24 AM   #65
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As for my opinion........ They are all great trucks, but here are reasons I chose the GMC,

I like the dodge, if I were to buy a dodge it would be with the manual, but I didn't want the manual. The ford is nice, but I just don't care for the 6.0 PSD. I put about 500 miles on one where I used to work and didn't like it at all.

I think the GMC has the nicest interior out of all and I do like the duramax/allison combo. So far it's been a good truck. FOr sure, the Dodge was a close second for me.
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Old December 18th, 2005, 12:13 PM   #66
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Blocked EGR valve
Doing this will give you no performance increase whatsoever.
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Old December 18th, 2005, 03:52 PM   #67
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Doing this will give you no performance increase whatsoever.
Hmm.. lets see u have a 360 GAS dodge.. he has a 6.6 Duramax I think i'll take his opinion.. and where did u hear that does nothing ?? From Skurski ?
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Old December 18th, 2005, 04:00 PM   #68
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Doing this will give you no performance increase whatsoever.

believe it or not, you are RIGHT! .........but, you will throw some codes if you don't get rid of the egr

and sometimes those codes can cause the truck to go into "engine limp mode" so, I'd say that is a very important mod that may not increase performance but will at least keep the truck from throwing codes related to that
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Old December 30th, 2005, 04:34 PM   #69
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[....but dodge trucks fall apart. And ford.....i don't even want to get started, i'll be here all day stating how cheap and brittle they are.[/QUOTE]

don't know what you mean about dodges falling apart my co-worker has a ram with 285,000 miles on it and it is still running a looking strong..and i guess that is the reason why ford has the best selling truck for 18 or so years in a row! and not sure about this one but, i heard the duramax is overseas built motor that dont last long with diesel fuel here in the states,and you can't run offroad deisel fuel in them either,unlike the powerstroke or the cummings.

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Old December 30th, 2005, 04:46 PM   #70
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my PSD is 9 years old, has 312K miles, stock motor, second trans. I just towed about 700 miles this weekend without a hiccup... I guess it will fall apart any time now
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Old December 30th, 2005, 07:01 PM   #71
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Duramax is built in Moraine, OH. It was designed as a joint project between GM and Isuzu, to utilize Isuzu's small to mid-range diesel experience and expertise. Love 'em or hate 'em, Isuzu builds a lot of diesels that get used pretty hard around the world.
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Old December 31st, 2005, 01:04 PM   #72
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Everybody wait till 2007-08. The game will be changing cause of the no sulfer diesel fuel, thanks to the EPA. For something to do I drove a brand new 3500 mega cab Dodge with the cummins in it. I really didn't like it myself, but that is why we have the big three. Fuel mileage wasn't that great and performance just wasn't there for me. So I'll just stay with my 2005 Ford PSD for now.
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Everybody wait till 2007-08. The game will be changing cause of the no sulfer diesel fuel, thanks to the EPA. For something to do I drove a brand new 3500 mega cab Dodge with the cummins in it. I really didn't like it myself, but that is why we have the big three. Fuel mileage wasn't that great and performance just wasn't there for me. So I'll just stay with my 2005 Ford PSD for now.
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Old January 9th, 2006, 06:07 PM   #74
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Duramax is built in Moraine, OH. It was designed as a joint project between GM and Isuzu, to utilize Isuzu's small to mid-range diesel experience and expertise. Love 'em or hate 'em, Isuzu builds a lot of diesels that get used pretty hard around the world.

exactly!
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no contest. In 3 years Toyota will have the best diesel motor ever. Maybe not best truck, but the motor itself will be outstanding, and sold in the USA in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. They won't match the output of the big 3, but the reliability will be rediculous.
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Old January 14th, 2006, 02:25 PM   #76
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i want this one !!!!!!!!!
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Old February 9th, 2006, 01:46 PM   #77
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Interesting... I'm ready through my backlog of Automotive News mags at work here.

There's a 3 page article about how Ford is getting its ass handed to them due to the 6.0 PSDs..

Intersting stats in the article:

-For 2003+, Cummin Dodges have 0 technical service bullitens for the engine. Chevy duramax's have had 8. The ford 6.0 has had 77 TSBs.

-In summer 2003 alone, ford bought back 500 trucks with engines that were too troublesome to continually repair.

-Ford will not acknowledge the specifc warranty cost but acknoledges that warranty costs have ballooned $500 million more in 2005

-According to the NHTSA, many trucks never made it home from the dealership before fuel injector and/or turbo failure occured. At least 14 accidents have occured from engines stalling.

-According to a dealership techs, Damaged turbo fins are to be blamed on air filter issues, and the $700+labor will not be covered under warranty.

-The 2005+ trucks appear to have fixed most of the problems.


I have no personal experience, just summarizing the article. I know that my Father's company(before he retired) built the assembly lines for the 6.0. He warned me of all kinds of issues they had with the motors as they were built and tested, and to stay away from them.

Anyway, thats from the Dec 12th 2005 Automotive News. More of a trade publication, probably something you won't find at the store.
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Good post about the automotive news. I was just about to post the same thing. seems the PSD for awhile there had some electrical gremlins.

The Duramax is an impressive engine, the cummins works well, but is not quite as refined. This is a summary of what we've seen at the tech center I work at.

I'm a dodge man, and I dont necessarily like refined.....so the CTD is it for me.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 01:35 PM   #79
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Uhh Was this a real Question ... LOL

CUMMINS POWER !!!!!!

The latest Greatest PSD has 77 TSB's the DMD has like 8 and the CTD = O !!! I admin a Diesel Forum and it seems 60%-70% of all Ford PSD Owners who buy new sell just before there out of warentee .

Ford uses the Exact same Cummins engine in there Bigger trucks 2 tons ect ...

Have you ever heard of anyone putting a PSD in a Dodge ??? :)

Cummins 250,000 miles before top end rebuild PSD 150,000

I suggest a test drive of all three ! Be sure to test the Dodge last so you dont have to go back anywhere ;)

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Uhh Was this a real Question ... LOL

CUMMINS POWER !!!!!!

The latest Greatest PSD has 77 TSB's the DMD has like 8 and the CTD = O !!! I admin a Diesel Forum and it seems 60%-70% of all Ford PSD Owners who buy new sell just before there out of warentee .

Ford uses the Exact same Cummins engine in there Bigger trucks 2 tons ect ...

Have you ever heard of anyone putting a PSD in a Dodge ??? :)

Cummins 250,000 miles before top end rebuild PSD 150,000

I suggest a test drive of all three ! Be sure to test the Dodge last so you dont have to go back anywhere ;)

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