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Old July 27th, 2008, 11:53 AM   #1
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Old July 27th, 2008, 02:53 PM   #2
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I find it hard to take Al Gore serious.

Antartica has had a record increase in it's ice coverage over the last few years, and it's average temperature has gone down in the same time period.

The total Polar Bear population has continued to rise over the last 30 years.

The Artic had an increase of winter ice of about 2 million square kilometers this season, and has experinced lower average temperatures than normal.

Al Gore won't tell you this because it goes agains't his position.
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...and nobody ever cites sources...
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The BlogosphereTuesday, September 11, 2007
A New Record for Antarctic Total Ice Extent?
While the news focus has been on the lowest ice extent since satellite monitoring began in 1979 for the Arctic, the Southern Hemisphere (Antarctica) has quietly set a new record for most ice extent since 1979





Recent cold snap helping Arctic sea ice, scientists find
Last Updated: Friday, February 15, 2008 | 10:17 AM ET
CBC News
There's an upside to the extreme cold temperatures northern Canadians have endured in the last few weeks: scientists say it's been helping winter sea ice grow across the Arctic, where the ice shrank to record-low levels last year.

Temperatures have stayed well in the -30s C and -40s C range since late January throughout the North, with the mercury dipping past -50 C in some areas.

Satellite images are showing that the cold spell is helping the sea ice expand in coverage by about 2 million square kilometres, compared to the average winter coverage in the previous three years.





Polar Bears are a Prop, Not An Endangered Species
By Duane Lester • Apr 3rd, 2008
Iceberg formed by waves, not “global warming™.”
Left-wing global warming windbags lambasted the president for not taking swift action in protecting the endangered polar bears. That’s right. We have solved all the problems in American concerning humans, so we can worry about polar bears. Socialist, I mean, Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer pointed some fingers today:

“The Bush administration is violating the law, and that is why we’re here today,” said Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), chairwoman of the Environment and Public Works Committee, opening the hearing. “These species do not have an indefinite time to be saved. . . . Time is running out for the polar bear, and time has run out for this decision.”

Here’s the thing on this one: the polar bears are not declining in population. The action needs to be taken because they might drop in population because of global warming (try to remain calm.)

One of the most controversial aspects of the pending decision is that it would be largely based not on current populations but on estimates of the threat posed by predicted shrinkage of Arctic sea ice, on which the animals rely to hunt their prey.

Not an actual threat, but “estimates of the threat.”

Before we go any farther, I want to talk about the current polar bear population. Did you know there are five times as many polar bears today than there were 30 years ago? It’s true. From the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review:

Fortunately, both for policy and the polar bears, the plight of this one population does not reflect the population trend as a whole. Indeed, since the 1970s — all while the world was warming - polar bear numbers increased tically from around 5,000 to as many as 25,000 today (higher than at anytime in the 20th century). And historically, polar bears have thrived in temperatures even warmer than at present – during the medieval warm period 1000 years ago and during the Holocene Climate Optimum between 5,000 and 9,000 years ago.
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Did you watch Al, the only thing he offered was " I don't remember ".

That must be his bullet proof source.
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Nah, I didn't watch it (I don't have flash on my phone to watch youtube).

I just wanted to make you do a bunch more work while I was relaxing peacefully at home.

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Nah, I didn't watch it (I don't have flash on my phone to watch youtube).

I just wanted to make you do a bunch more work while I was relaxing peacefully at home.

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Nah, I didn't watch it (I don't have flash on my phone to watch youtube).

I just wanted to make you do a bunch more work while I was relaxing peacefully at home.

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I agree with him that switching over to renewable energy sources is a worthwhile goal to pursue. I don't think it's practical or possible to do it within ten years, and worry about what unintended consequences may result from rushing it like that.

I also think Al Gore should lead by example and realize that conservation has to be part of the answer...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-...-use-climbs-10

Renewable does not equal unlimited.
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it's funny how al gore can be such a damned hypocrite and win a nobel prize.
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ok when i went to school in 1820 they told me that the sun will move closer to the earth each year that soon the sun will hit the earth many years to come..

so maybe this global warming is alot of BS just to sell people on it
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I agree with him that switching over to renewable energy sources is a worthwhile goal to pursue. I don't think it's practical or possible to do it within ten years, and worry about what unintended consequences may result from rushing it like that.

I also think Al Gore should lead by example and realize that conservation has to be part of the answer...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-...-use-climbs-10

Renewable does not equal unlimited.

Technically oil and coal are renewable resources. Just takes a while.
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http://www.hubbertpeak.com/Library/ThePartysOver.htm

according to this guy that's not true. He says it was formed at two times during the earths formation, you know around 4.5 billion years ago (6,000 in creationist years) Supposedly the idea that it was formed from organic decaying material is a myth.
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according to this guy that's not true. He says it was formed at two times during the earths formation, you know around 4.5 billion years ago (6,000 in creationist years) Supposedly the idea that it was formed from organic decaying material is a myth.
I guess if it was formed at two different times it would support the idea that technically it is renewable, althought it may take a billion years, but thats where the technically comes from.

Any ways it was meant as a joke. Kinda like Obama and Darwin

OOOOHHHHH bada bing bada boom.

This computer stuff sucks because if you where sitting here right now you would be laughing your ass off.
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I'll laugh if in about 40 years we discover that the "global slowing of winds" from all these windmills has a bigger effect in causing climate change than green house gasses ever did.
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I'll laugh if in about 40 years we discover that the "global slowing of winds" from all these windmills has a bigger effect in causing climate change than green house gasses ever did.

In 40 years Ill be looking at 90 years old.
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I'll laugh if in about 40 years we discover that the "global slowing of winds" from all these windmills has a bigger effect in causing climate change than green house gasses ever did.
But our tree's are gone because we cut so many down to build more Meijers (while the Kmart sits vacant), which in turn creates a bit of clearing, so in the end the windmills and empty parking lots balance....
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<----- still waiting for mikesova to provide a link to a credible website.
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At least he's starting the debate and is formulating a plan, unlike the Chimp in Charge
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