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Old July 15th, 2008, 12:11 AM   #1
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my GF wants to make a website for her class. How do I go about this? Where should I register the domain name? Apparently some places are uber expensive, do they offer the same stuff and the less expensive sites?
Ive never done this before, so any help is appreciated.
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Old July 15th, 2008, 12:15 AM   #2
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everyone seems to use godaddy, but I've heard mixed reviews at times about their customer service.

I, in the past, have used easydns, because they will also host your DNS entries (which is important - you need someone to do that, on top of buying a domain). I've never had any issues with them, and they have a pretty simple web interface for just about anything a DNS provider or registrar would do.

As for making the website... either use Dreamweaver or just fire up notepad and go at it. There are also plenty of text editors that do syntax hilighting, which can be useful when you start seriously writing code. Don't use Frontpage, it sucks, and puts out some crazy ass code.
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i used freeservers.com but with that you have a www.something.somethingelse.com web address but its free and super easy to build a site



EDIT: holy shit that site actually came up
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my GF wants to make a website for her class. How do I go about this? Where should I register the domain name? Apparently some places are uber expensive, do they offer the same stuff and the less expensive sites?
Ive never done this before, so any help is appreciated.
Everything you need is on www.Godaddy.com
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Old July 15th, 2008, 06:35 AM   #6
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FF: I use godaddy. Its not expensive. You can do a quick google search and find a discount code to know some money off as well.

I use Notepad to write HTML. I use Dreamweaver to create templates. If help is needed shoot me a PM>
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I went through dreamhost.com I think it was like $18 for a years worth of hosting with 4gig transfer and 2 gig storage with a free domain name. This was a few years ago, not sure what their prices are now.
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uhh, use any registrar, I'll give you free hosting.
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I went through dreamhost.com I think it was like $18 for a years worth of hosting with 4gig transfer and 2 gig storage with a free domain name. This was a few years ago, not sure what their prices are now.
I've been with Dreamhost since their 7th anniversary - the year of which escapes me, but the deal then was $7.77 for an entire year's hosting, similar storage/transfer and it included the domain registration.

I just logged into the webpanel, and they're showing non-promotional rates at $5.95/month and if I recall correctly that includes registration, etc.

additional features can be found here: http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.html

(non-referral link) they do have a reseller/referral arrangement as well but I've never bothered to muck around with it. *Shrug*
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how much hd and bw?
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I've been with Dreamhost since their 7th anniversary - the year of which escapes me, but the deal then was $7.77 for an entire year's hosting, similar storage/transfer and it included the domain registration.

I just logged into the webpanel, and they're showing non-promotional rates at $5.95/month and if I recall correctly that includes registration, etc.

additional features can be found here: http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.html

(non-referral link) they do have a reseller/referral arrangement as well but I've never bothered to muck around with it. *Shrug*
5 tb/ traffic, 500 gig hd, unlimited sql db's, unlimited emails, $6.00 a month?






What they don't tell you, is that the shared servers are so fricken slow that they can never really deliver a terabyte of traffic, let alone 5.

If your website has 10 people a day visit it, dreamhost is fine.


For "real" hosting check out blurstorm and liquidweb.
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i dont know yet just thinking making another VB site down here 10G 10g if i need more can you set it up for more later?
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What they don't tell you, is that the shared servers are so fricken slow that they can never really deliver a terabyte of traffic, let alone 5.
I've never had a problem with response times, but also confess I don't use 1/10 of what they offer, and obviously do not generate a ton of traffic. edit: and at peak times I have quite a bit more than 10 per day visit it

For the hobbyist, or family website I don't need to spend what you spend for this site.

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5 tb/ traffic, 500 gig hd, unlimited sql db's, unlimited emails, $6.00 a month?






What they don't tell you, is that the shared servers are so fricken slow that they can never really deliver a terabyte of traffic, let alone 5.

If your website has 10 people a day visit it, dreamhost is fine.


For "real" hosting check out blurstorm and liquidweb.
x2 i was going to say that also who knows when their site will go bye bye
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I've never had a problem with response times, but also confess I don't use 1/10 of what they offer, and obviously do not generate a ton of traffic.

For the hobbyist, or family website I don't need to spend what you spend for this site.

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I hit submit to early and didn't finish typing out my thoughts.
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I hit submit to early and didn't finish typing out my thoughts.

yeah, I edited mine as well

dreamhost has been up for quite a while. and while as I said I'm not serving up a commercial site I do at peak times see some traffic spikes that are surprising for a non-indexed family photo site basically.

what the sellers of "real hosting" seem to miss, is that there are quite a few folks that evidently want more than a free (ex geoshities) site will/can offer, but are not looking to carve out a presence with significant page rank.

*Shrug*

for one, the online space alone is used as yet another backup of family photographs, and used to pass large datasets to/from work to/from home, and/or other places.

e.g. if I'm helping a family member, or friend out with an install it's easier if I don't have to cart a folder of cd's around as an example...
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x2 i was going to say that also who knows when their site will go bye bye

they've been around since '96... and kelly knows about that "other site" (OT) which is actually where I found dreamhost way back when.

while said sight obviously is not hosted @ dreamhost quite a few folks there are still members since that 7.77 deal as well. *Shrug*
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what the sellers of "real hosting" seem to miss, is that there are quite a few folks that evidently want more than a free (ex geoshities) site will/can offer, but are not looking to carve out a presence with significant page rank.
The problem is, 6 bucks a month from 50 people on a shared server = 300 a month bring in. But at the same time, it means 50 idiots (hey, I was one) are calling in for tech support and they lose a ton of money.

"real" hosting companies have chosen to go with high end equipment, and offer top notch tech support, and 30 minute hardware replacement. I can call my host right now, and within 30 seconds I would be talking with one of the actual tech's sitting in the rack room. Its pretty fricken awesome. But for service and support, comes extra cost. To me its worth it.

Companies that appeal to the mass market, whoring themselves for $5.00 a month can't possibly provide reasonable or adequate support.


Two different game plans, and obviously they both work out pretty well. Dream has been around for a while, liquidweb just built its 3rd 100,000 square foot data center.

For the average website guy who wants to show family photos, and knows enough about html to make a basic website is a perfect person for the cheap hosting.
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The problem is, 6 bucks a month from 50 people on a shared server = 300 a month bring in. But at the same time, it means 50 idiots (hey, I was one) are calling in for tech support and they lose a ton of money.

"real" hosting companies have chosen to go with high end equipment, and offer top notch tech support, and 30 minute hardware replacement. I can call my host right now, and within 30 seconds I would be talking with one of the actual tech's sitting in the rack room. Its pretty fricken awesome. But for service and support, comes extra cost. To me its worth it.

Companies that appeal to the mass market, whoring themselves for $5.00 a month can't possibly provide reasonable or adequate support.


Two different game plans, and obviously they both work out pretty well. Dream has been around for a while, liquidweb just built its 3rd 100,000 square foot data center.

For the average website guy who wants to show family photos, and knows enough about html to make a basic website is a perfect person for the cheap hosting.
no question there is a huge difference in market. while I don't work for dreamhost and can't speak to their support model, I have found that they have automated quite a bit of the setup, one-click-installs on things like wordpress blogs, databases, ftp/webmail/subdomain management through a webpanel etc, etc. (shit, I even found they have an online media converter -> .flv app, and separate streaming media servers)

I was also connected to a support person in less than 30 seconds the one time I did have a billing question. (that support person very well may have been the DBA/ServerTech & Billing Administrator for all I know )

but you are right, if I was making a significant e-commerce site, or using it as a marketing tool for an enterprise I more than likely would not only go with a more robust host, but more than likely a specialist in creating the site as well.

If I were just starting out for a small business though, I probably would not have any qualms about setting up a basic site on dreamhost (they even have shopping cart apps) - if you experience growing pains, the financial outlay is not very large.

And to be fair to dreamhost, I never bothered to see what their commercial plans looked like as that wasn't my interest, or intent.
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