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Old July 6th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #1
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I was out to the Mounds today. I was letting my 13 old drive the main trails. She has drove my jeep many times and drives very well. Hell, She drove my jeep all through 2 Track Minds Offroads coarse !
Well I came back to the parking area and one of the "Kids" from the Mounds runs over and says "Hey! Does she have a drivers permit!" I said "no shes only 13". So we get into a debate about what the orv laws say. After about 10 min and 3 workers later know one could get me anything in writing saying she could or couldnt drive in the park. They said that if I let her drive the jeep any more I will be kicked out of the park! ......
Is there anything in writing that says the laws or not. I have read the orv guide and looked at the Dnr web site.....
Help........
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Old July 6th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #2
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Don't let your 13 year old drive a jeep in an offroad park.

If something were to happen the laywers ruin your life.
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Old July 6th, 2008, 08:11 PM   #3
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It's not legal I believe they have to be 14 and with a safety permit unless on "your" private property. My 11 cannot ride her 4 wheeler on any ORV trails legally even if she had the safety class.

Do some research here www.michigan.gov/dnr
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this was in St. Helen area. My nephew drove all day. Several others took a detour around this spot.

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Old July 6th, 2008, 08:24 PM   #5
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You gotta be friggin' kidding me! It doesn't take much effort to find out that answer.
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Old July 6th, 2008, 08:25 PM   #6
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I have looked and the only thing I can find pertains to ATV's and Dirt bikes. The info I found said 12 yrs old for dirt bikes and 4 wheel atvs with supervision of an adult and and ORV certificate 16 yrs for 3 wheeled atv. I guess you have to ask yourself if it is such a wise idea to allow a 13 year old to operate a full size vehicle in a public park? Would your insurance cover them if they were to be responsible for an accident? If not are you prepared to loose every thing you own and future wages for said actions? It only takes one mistake. I know alot of kids that I would trust to drive my rigs but not in a public area and only with myself in the vehicle with them.
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I have looked and the only thing I can find pertains to ATV's and Dirt bikes. The info I found said 12 yrs old for dirt bikes and 4 wheel atvs with supervision of an adult and and ORV certificate 16 yrs for 3 wheeled atv. I guess you have to ask yourself if it is such a wise idea to allow a 13 year old to operate a full size vehicle in a public park? Would your insurance cover them if they were to be responsible for an accident? If not are you prepared to loose every thing you own and future wages for said actions? It only takes one mistake. I know alot of kids that I would trust to drive my rigs but not in a public area and only with myself in the vehicle with them.
would your insurence cover yourself in an ORV park?
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Yes it does and has.
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with a 13yo driver?
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with a 13yo driver?
You obviously didn't read what I posted. No I would not allow a 13 yr old to drive my rigs in a public park.
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this was in St. Helen area. My nephew drove all day. Several others took a detour around this spot.


he drives just like you do. couldn't even tell a difference.
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Sure why not, they let 13 yo drive cars on the street right?
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Here's a link to the ORV hand book regarding it:

http://www.offroad-ed.com/mi/handboo...strictions.htm

Since it does not specifically mention full sized vehicle one might interpret that to mean they are included in "other ORV's" and can be operated by kids any age as long as there is adult supervision and they have a safety certificate.

I'm not sure if law enforcement and the courts will interpret it that way.
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For ORV's, between 12 and 15 must be within sight of the adult and posess avalid ORV safety certificate. Must be a 4 wheeler, have to be 16 on a 3 wheeler. That's the state law, county might have an added rule at it's park. For a full size vehicle, has to be a licensed driver being 16.
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For ORV's, between 12 and 15 must be within sight of the adult and posess avalid ORV safety certificate. Must be a 4 wheeler, have to be 16 on a 3 wheeler. That's the state law, county might have an added rule at it's park. For a full size vehicle, has to be a licensed driver being 16.

x2. If you want to let the 13 year old drive then it will have to be on private land. I understand where you're coming from but you still shouldn't do it.
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Don't let your 13 year old drive a jeep in an offroad park.

If something were to happen the laywers ruin your life.

While that may be true its extremely common. I have seen multiple kids that age and younger drive in big rock crawling competitions. There is a 12 year old and a 14 year old that have competed in RROCK comps the past few years.
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if i am not mistaken when you are in a off road park your rig is a "orv" and fall under the same laws as a quad amd go cart ect a 4 wheeled orv ...dont quote me but i believe that is how it would work since you dont have to have a plate or insurance on a trail rig to drive there it shouldnt make a differance if it is a quad or side by side or a buggy or jeep .............
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You obviously didn't read what I posted. No I would not allow a 13 yr old to drive my rigs in a public park.
I honestly didnt, I was just trying to incite an e-riot.
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