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Old June 21st, 2008, 10:01 AM   #1
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Default Brakes and big tires. what do you run?

on a subject i rarely see talked about, for those guys running 38's or bigger what do you use for brakes to stop those big tires? i plan on running dana 60's F&R on my dodge and plan on a rear disc conversion but what are the biggest brake choices for the best stopping power?
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 09:07 AM   #2
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I'm running Ford 1 ton brakes on my YJ with D60s.
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 09:11 AM   #3
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For my 38.5s, I run:

Toyota Supra dual diaphram booster with 1"/1" disc/disc master from the same car.
Summit racing adjustable prop valve
front: FJ40 vented rotors with 89 V6 4-runner 'big' calipers, ground to fit inside 15" rims
rear: solid axle front rotors with front axle small calipers



Proper brake bias is just as important as stopping power. You want your fronts to do more than your rears. Ideally, you achieve that primarily through the use of larger front calipers than the rears, then use an adjustable prop valve to dial it in.
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i plan on running dana 60's F&R on my dodge and plan on a rear disc conversion but what are the biggest brake choices for the best stopping power?
A Dodge what?

If you can still lock up your rears with drums, you don't need more stopping power back there. I have 40's on my Ram and all I did was add slotted/crossdrilled front rotors with Hawk pads since the stockers would fade when they got hot.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 04:27 PM   #5
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84 ram 1/2 ton. gonna stick 44" boggers on it after i lift it 12-16" but definatly dont wanna sacrifice braking capacity as i will drive this on the street alitlle.
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84 ram 1/2 ton. gonna stick 44" boggers on it after i lift it 12-16" but definatly dont wanna sacrifice braking capacity as i will drive this on the street alitlle.
Uh, I only needed 9" to fit 40's with no trimming. I know you have a 1st-gen, but do you really need 12-16"?


If that's your plan, you won't need to worry about the brakes. You'll break the 1/2 ton axles pretty fast. Snocross2extremes broke his 1/2-ton shit constantly and I think he only had 36's.
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thats y i wanna run dana 60's F&R. i already have the rear. just need to find a front non dually. i know i'll need at least 12" cuz a guy i know has the same truck with 10" and only clears 38.5's with room for suspension movement. any bigger would rub.
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thats y i wanna run dana 60's F&R. i already have the rear.
30-spline? What's it from?
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78 dodge 1 ton. has 30 splines. might upgrade to 35 splines. will probably need it. gonna build a 500 horse 440 big block for the truck. replacing everything but the housing anyways with new gears, and an ox locker.
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Old June 23rd, 2008, 09:25 PM   #10
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cut a hole in the floor and stick my feet through
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78 dodge 1 ton. has 30 splines. might upgrade to 35 splines. will probably need it. gonna build a 500 horse 440 big block for the truck. replacing everything but the housing anyways with new gears, and an ox locker.
Save yourself the money and ditch the D60 in favor of a 14bFF or D70 and shave it.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 04:28 PM   #12
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well the D60 was $50 bucks and is in good shape. so i'll just keep it and if it blows the i'll get a better after i get more $$...
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Old June 24th, 2008, 04:43 PM   #13
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84 ram 1/2 ton. gonna stick 44" boggers on it after i lift it 12-16" but definatly dont wanna sacrifice braking capacity as i will drive this on the street alitlle.
you might want to rethink lifting it that high, if you get near the street you will get pulled over for being a little too high, snowcross2extremes found that out w/ 38s.

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thats y i wanna run dana 60's F&R. i already have the rear. just need to find a front non dually. i know i'll need at least 12" cuz a guy i know has the same truck with 10" and only clears 38.5's with room for suspension movement. any bigger would rub.
Cut fenders

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well the D60 was $50 bucks and is in good shape. so i'll just keep it and if it blows the i'll get a better after i get more $$...
you can find a 14 bolt cheap
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Old June 24th, 2008, 04:51 PM   #14
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i have designed ways around the lift heights. all thats required are the proper bumper and frame heights. well i have a way around it so that won't be a problem. no i'm not cutting fenders...my truck has a perfect body no rust no rot what so ever and cut fenders to me are hack jobs. i don't like hack jobs. a built up dana 60 can handle 44's. i won't be beating the shit out of the truck at all so i don't plan on breaking anything.
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i have designed ways around the lift heights. all thats required are the proper bumper and frame heights. well i have a way around it so that won't be a problem. no i'm not cutting fenders...my truck has a perfect body no rust no rot what so ever and cut fenders to me are hack jobs. i don't like hack jobs. a built up dana 60 can handle 44's. i won't be beating the shit out of the truck at all so i don't plan on breaking anything.
ya, ok with that 'i have a way around it' crap:miff:. you do enough of a good job on cutting fenders they dont look like shit. a 14 bolt stock is stronger then a 60, no need to invest money into an axle. "i won't be beating the shit out of the truck at all so i don't plan on breaking anything." -almost everybody says that, and then goes on to break things
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well the D60 was $50 bucks and is in good shape. so i'll just keep it and if it blows the i'll get a better after i get more $$...
That's called "setting yourself up for failure". Kind of like wheeling a D35.

14bFF's are $100 items and you wouldn't have to do shit to it. Maybe $150 if they are clean and runnable and the huge drums will be plenty.
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Old July 4th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #17
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44" Boggers and you don't plan on breaking anything?
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Old July 4th, 2008, 02:18 PM   #18
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i would like to hear your way around not cutting fenders and running 44 boggers that will be running down the road. you will need tons of lift to clear the tires so they dont eat the fenders under some flex bouncing out of a mud hole.
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Old July 4th, 2008, 02:21 PM   #19
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i'm building this truck mainly as something to show off, and i'll occasionally take it to mounds to ride around but i won't be dropping it in the deep shit that breaks stuff. trucks gonna cost 10k or better not gonna go out and wreck it. i have my quad for tearing shit up as thats not as expensive to fix.
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most people have 10k or better underneith their rig.


gears and lockers
tires
axles
beadlocks.
axleshafts u joints
thats nearly 10k there
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