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Old June 14th, 2008, 01:48 PM   #41
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You never know where your former boss or co-workers will end up at. They might be the deciding factor in whether you get hired the next time you're on the job hunt.
Perhaps, but jobs are jobs and it's the people that make them worthwhile. You didn't want to work for/with them before, why take a job to work with them again? If I saw the former manager sitting on the interview team I'd leave for that fact alone.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 02:08 PM   #42
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Perhaps, but jobs are jobs and it's the people that make them worthwhile. You didn't want to work for/with them before, why take a job to work with them again? If I saw the former manager sitting on the interview team I'd leave for that fact alone.

hahaha that's pretty funny for you to say.......... take a look at your avatar You don't always have a choice.

I've worked for more than one person that I would work for again. In fact I have twice. I've also had a former boss give me an unsolicited referral.

Never burn a bridge.......... you just never know what the future holds.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 02:36 PM   #43
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hahaha that's pretty funny for you to say.......... take a look at your avatar You don't always have a choice.
You always do have the choice... It's just a matter of if one wants to sacrifice a living style for the choice and move down in pay bands. The choice remains regardless. The taco bell jobs of the world don't tend to advertise on monster.com.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 07:43 PM   #44
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It is interesting to see the dichotomy of answers. The bottom dwellers are telling you to screw them and just quit. Those that I know with better jobs are telling you to give them the two weeks notice. It sounds like they have been fair with you despite the pay cut after losing clients. Do what you want, but never burn bridges. Even when I got fired from a 6-figure job by extreme assholes, I walked out shaking hands with a smile on my face. Funny who shows up in other important jobs in other companies years down the road. One of them would hire me right now at another company if I expresses interest. Give them the 2-weeks notice. Explain why you are leaving and leave the decision up to them if you work those 2 weeks or not.
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I am not a bottom dweller. I sure am not a company kiss ass either. Someday when you get fired with out ever having any disiplinary issues previuos you might change you tune.
took the words right out of my mouth dmcjeep. i've givin 2 weeks notice and told where to go. also givin notice and praised for it. why shouldn't that courtsey thing go both ways??
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Old June 14th, 2008, 08:22 PM   #45
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Last time i put in my 2 weeks, They told me to just pack my tools and that day was my last day..









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Everywhere I've worked, if you give two weeks notice and they escort you out, you still get the two weeks pay. It is corporate policy to remove employees sometimes due to security reasons of theft and intelectual property. I guess it depends on the job.

I would definately give two weeks in order to not burn bridges. !
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I gave 1 day & 1/2 notice. I even interviewed my own replacement during the last day there.

I did find something interesting while on a website for HR representatives. Michigan is a "must pay" state - if you are eligible for vacation time as part of your compensation package you are entitled to be paid for accrued vacation pay upon your departure. I had 18 days that I didn't use when I left. I (and my new boss) thought I should see if I can collect on that.
Anyone out there actually get their vacation pay when leaving? I thought about putting in for 2-3 weeks of vacation time and start working for my new employer while "on vacation" and I think it would have worked since they kept telling me to take time off to "get myself healthy" since I had a back injury that was causing a lot of pain.
Yes, last employer paid my outstanding vacation time (4 days) as an extra 32 hoiurs of pay on my last check
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Perhaps, but jobs are jobs and it's the people that make them worthwhile. You didn't want to work for/with them before, why take a job to work with them again? If I saw the former manager sitting on the interview team I'd leave for that fact alone.
Yes, jobs are jobs, and if you're looking, sometimes you'll deal with anything to continue employment. Notice I mentioned co-workers as well. They won't necessarily be the hiring manager. I'm not a hiring manager, and I've made recommendations against ex-coworkers plenty of times. You might not even know this person has any say until it's too late.

There's no excuse to burn a bridge, unless they're dicking you around heavily.

However, if you know that it's your company policy to walk you out immediately upon notice, yes, I'd hold the notice.
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took the words right out of my mouth dmcjeep. i've givin 2 weeks notice and told where to go. also givin notice and praised for it. why shouldn't that courtsey thing go both ways??
It is called being professional. Go ahead and tell an employer to go fukc themselves. It is a small world. Word does and will get around. Will it always affect you? No. But, no matter what an employer does to you, it is YOUR actions that will affect your future. I've never burned a bridge and have a great reputation in my industry. I've also furthered myself through job training and education. To each their own, but I prefer to act in such a way that I don't ever have to worry about getting a job in the future. I have no problem working with some of the idiots that used to be my bosses. They will still hire me and pay me GREAT money because I treated them with respect, even though I personally thought they were complete retarded idiots. I just never expressed it to them.

And to the earlier comment about me getting fired with no previous disciplinary issues. I was. One year I pulled down $150,000 after salary and bonus. The next year I was fired for "poor performance". I think I know what I am talking about. I've been there and done it. It was political and I got screwed.
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From an employers perspective, there are 2 ways to look at two weeks notice. They can let you work, help train a replacement, and transfer your knowledge. Or they can look at you as a risk they don't want and tell you to leave. That protects them from losing inside information to a competitor that just took one of their employees. I've seen it both ways in the same company. Most trading firms will tell you to leave immediately upon notice of resignation. They don't want the risk. But, in some factory somewhere, it may be beneficial to allow the employee to work the 2 weeks. Every situation is different.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 10:00 AM   #50
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From an employers perspective, there are 2 ways to look at two weeks notice. They can let you work, help train a replacement, and transfer your knowledge. Or they can look at you as a risk they don't want and tell you to leave. That protects them from losing inside information to a competitor that just took one of their employees. I've seen it both ways in the same company. Most trading firms will tell you to leave immediately upon notice of resignation. They don't want the risk. But, in some factory somewhere, it may be beneficial to allow the employee to work the 2 weeks. Every situation is different.
Ya every suituation is different that does not make me a "bottom feeder" for feeling that 2 weeks notice is not necessary. Getting fired was possibily one of the better things that happened to me. I got to retire early but it still sucks getting fired for no reason. And for what it is worth I spent 23 years working for that company when they fired me for no reason. To this day I still do not know the exact reason that I was fired.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 10:18 AM   #51
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And for what it is worth I spent 23 years working for that company when they fired me for no reason. To this day I still do not know the exact reason that I was fired.
So there was no reason, but there is a reason? I'd bet it was because you were there for 23 years and they could hire someone that was 23... The absolute best thing they could do is give you no reason. The best line is that your services are no longer needed. You can't fight that one. I should have sued my former employer because they stated it was for poor performance. It is hard to support that when there were 5 of us doing the job and my sales accounted for roughly 31% of the gross. I was the 2nd best person on the desk. I could have gotten a nice payout for that one. I just didn't want to deal with them and I knew it could affect me in getting a job down the road.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 01:36 PM   #52
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I agree with all of the "don't burn bridges" advice.

If a company has paid you every week for the work you've done, no matter how long you have been on the job, they owe you nothing more.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #53
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I agree with all of the "don't burn bridges" advice.

If a company has paid you every week for the work you've done, no matter how long you have been on the job, they owe you nothing more.
except for if said company paid you every week you worked there, and also committed several federal offenses, then perhaps they do in fact still owe you more.

the issue will be whether it's worth the effort to attempt to collect (and in turn burn those bridges).

e.g. While not applicable to me, a former co-worker was passed over for a promotion after she refused to answer a direct, and illegal question regarding whether or not she and her husband planned on having additional children during the interview...

Even though she eventually left the industry altogether, she felt it wasn't worth the effort to fight the "good ole boy's network". *shrug*
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Old June 24th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #54
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well I gave em 1 week notice .. I start Monday...We are discussing me supporting my old company as a 1099 contractor...

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Old June 24th, 2008, 10:13 PM   #55
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The day you get the offer in writing, submit your two week notice in writing for 2 weeks out.... The ball is in your court now!


x2, thats what I just did. Got my offer letter early last week, pulled my manager aside and told him I am putting in my notice and I'll finish out the current week and the following week. Almost a full two weeks notice.
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Old June 25th, 2008, 08:19 AM   #56
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Never burn a bridge. Everyone of us who have been around awhile have said the same thing...because we know you cannot predict the future...it is foolish to burn bridges because you may need to be thought of highly by that person or company 10 years down the road.
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Old June 25th, 2008, 08:25 AM   #57
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say you get into your new job and it doesn't work out, it would be a good idea to stay on good terms with your old employer.
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I say man up.

Piss on their desk and tell them to fukc off.
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Working at a reemployment agency we tell people to never burn a bridge. Even though you would like to make a statement by walking out, try to give 2 weeks notice if you can. If the new job for some reason needs you to start sooner, give as much notice as you can.

It's about networking. Many people we see get new jobs through networking. If you leave your old job on a bad note your bosses and other coworkers see that. If you see them a few years down the road, they remember that and may be hesitant to extend an opportunity to you.
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When you give the two weeks notice and tell your new employer that you feel that your former workplace deserves that it shows that you are a professional. Like another poster refered to if the new job does not like that policy how are they going to treat you?
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