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Old June 12th, 2008, 04:10 AM   #1
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Ok, I'm looking for a way to get some kind of attachment point on the back of my XJ, so I can attach a strap for recovery. I've heard a few different ideas that I'm not real sure about, safety wise.

1. Attaching the strap straight to the hitch pin in the receiver. My gut reaction to this is that it's too much weight not being distributed, and the pin will snap and possibly cause injury, but I've heard that a lot of guys at the Mounds do this.

2. Using my existing hitch, via a shackle in place of the ball. Only fault I see with this, is the shackle having room to move around, and again with all the force on one point (this time on the bolt through the shackle).

I'd like to do one of these, short term, until I can afford to get a bumper designed with recovery in mind. If all else fails, I can get a Warn receiver shackle, but I'd like to know your opinions on the above options first.

Now that I'm thinking about it, how solid are the stock front hooks? Any danger there of those coming off during recovery?

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Old June 12th, 2008, 05:30 AM   #2
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Shackle on the hitch is the way to go
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Old June 12th, 2008, 05:46 AM   #3
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x2 on the shackle on the hitch. Much better than the pin alone.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 06:06 AM   #4
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Now that I'm thinking about it, how solid are the stock front hooks? Any danger there of those coming off during recovery?
dont know about the xj but my tj has a 6 or 7k rateing on them and they are rather pointy, i could see how the end could snap off or pirce a strap.

if there is any question to them coming off just dubble check that they are tight.

it would not surprise me if stock hooks brake or bend under a hard pull.

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Old June 12th, 2008, 07:24 AM   #5
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Somewhere on here there are pix of an XJ where the front tow hooks and brackets pulled off. It was not pretty for the XJ. I have a set of c4x4 brackets on mine and while I have managed to bend them. I even broke a 20k strap on them while I was bending them during an extraction.

The good front brackets extend back into the body another 12 inches or so and pick up another bolt or 2 over the stock hook brackets.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 08:38 AM   #6
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It also depends on what you consider "recovery". Towing somebody / assisting them, or the mondo retarded "get a 30' running start at WOT" recovery method?

Personally, I think a lot of the failures are from over-zealous people.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 08:42 AM   #7
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I'm with scooter, it amazes me how many people DON'T know how to use a recovery strap to get someone unstuck.

I like the I need to get this guy out in one try approach. Or the wait till the strap is tight to give it any gas approach then stand on the gas and bury myself approach.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 08:49 AM   #8
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Warn makes a shackle setup that fits into a reciever. Used it plenty of times with no trouble.
Here is the link
http://www.warn.com/truck/accessories/shackle.shtml
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Old June 12th, 2008, 10:52 AM   #9
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Warn makes a shackle setup that fits into a reciever. Used it plenty of times with no trouble.
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http://www.warn.com/truck/accessories/shackle.shtml

i agree that this is the best/cheap method.




i've seen the front toyota hooks bent.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 10:54 AM   #10
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Warn makes a shackle setup that fits into a reciever. Used it plenty of times with no trouble.
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http://www.warn.com/truck/accessories/shackle.shtml
Thats one option I was considering, but given that I could get a shackle from JCR to use with my existing hitch for cheaper than I could get the receiver shackle (even with shipping), I wanted to get opinions on that first. Eventually, I'll probably get that, just for the ease of switching between towing and recovery (not having to unbolt the hitch ball), but right now money is tight, and I'm trying to do this as safely as I can, without spending all my gas money to do it.


Hmm...from the sound of it, I either need someone sensible on the other end when I use the front hooks, or I should just not use them. I don't mind bending, since they won't be there forever anyway, but I definitely don't want them to become a projectile. I'll have to take a look at what holes are readily available under there and see if I can't make some mounts for shackles up there.
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I use the receiver and shackle mothod. But I need the correct shackle. Screw in shackle, not the pin in.
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clevis mount and clevis $26


this thread shows strap pricing
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=80458

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Thats one option I was considering, but given that I could get a shackle from JCR to use with my existing hitch for cheaper than I could get the receiver shackle

what can you get from jcr??
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clevis mount and clevis $26


this thread shows strap pricing
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=80458
Not including shipping though, right? Like I said, I'd love to buy one of those, but if I can safely use a shackle (which is $16 including shipping from JCR) with my hitch, I'd rather do that and have more money to spend on gas for wheeling.

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what can't you get from jcr??
Fixed it for ya. And from what I've seen, not a damn thing.
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Not including shipping though, right?
I would throw in the shipping and sales tax, so the total would be $26
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lol, yeah i know jcr has a bunch of stuff i was wonder exactly what you were tanking about buying from them
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I would throw in the shipping and sales tax, so the total would be $26
Alright, I'll take a look at my check tomorrow and see what I can do.

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lol, yeah i know jcr has a bunch of stuff i was wonder exactly what you were tanking about buying from them
Under the DIY Parts section they sell D-ring shackles.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 11:36 AM   #18
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Under the DIY Parts section they sell D-ring shackles.
do you have the d ring tabs?
is so that should be just fine, as long as it is built right
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do you have the d ring tabs?
is so that should be just fine, as long as it is built right
no, dumbass, he is going to use them with his regular receiver insert with the ball taken off. OMG, is it that hard to read the damn thread?!
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