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Old June 11th, 2008, 11:12 AM   #1
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the Monday after all the rain
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Old June 12th, 2008, 01:18 AM   #2
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where exactly. I never find anything down there unless theres snow.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 02:36 AM   #3
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pretty badass for allegan, hopefully you were okay wheeling there. DNR is pretty uptight
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Old June 12th, 2008, 06:28 AM   #4
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is that passable with a conventional two wheel drive motor vehicle?

or is it private property?
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Old June 13th, 2008, 09:20 AM   #5
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that is a seasonal road between Hamilton and Allegan, it only gets that way after a couple days of real hard rain,not to mention the state has put so much sand out there it is almost like going to Silver Lake. It only happens once in a great while so we take advantage of it. yes it is passable by conventional 2-wheel drive,under normal circumstances.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #6
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Show your buddy how to zoom in next time )
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Old June 13th, 2008, 11:59 AM   #7
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with my digital camera you can't zoom once you start recording,and we left the handycam home sorry
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Old June 13th, 2008, 01:59 PM   #8
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that is a seasonal road between Hamilton and Allegan, it only gets that way after a couple days of real hard rain,not to mention the state has put so much sand out there it is almost like going to Silver Lake. It only happens once in a great while so we take advantage of it. yes it is passable by conventional 2-wheel drive,under normal circumstances.
So basically, illegal wheeling?
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Old June 13th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #9
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how is it illegal if it's a seasonal road?
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Old June 13th, 2008, 03:15 PM   #10
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how is it illegal if it's a seasonal road?
Basically the whole 2WD rule:

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A trail that is not blocked is not always 'open'. It's only open until a car couldn't run it, then you're supposed to turn around and leave.

And what happens when you get stuck? Do you pull cable?

No, you turn around and leave -- that's a DIRECT quote form Steve K. at an ORV AB meeting.
This came from another thread where videos were posted and the activities were in question.
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I thought there was a clause in for seasonal roads and still being able to use them in conditions like the one in the video. I can't remember what it said specifically, but I know there was a post about it months ago when the winter season was ending and spring was started.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #12
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XJ sounds tough, what exhaust you running on it??
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Old June 13th, 2008, 09:40 PM   #13
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So lets get this straight. I am wheeling illegally every where i go because my truck is fulltime 4 wheel drive? So if i'm on a seasonal road i'm illegal cause i'm in 4 wheel drive.
So when i'm on pavement driving in water i'm illegal, again because i'm in 4 wheel drive??
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So lets get this straight. I am wheeling illegally every where i go because my truck is fulltime 4 wheel drive? So if i'm on a seasonal road i'm illegal cause i'm in 4 wheel drive.
So when i'm on pavement driving in water i'm illegal, again because i'm in 4 wheel drive??
Yeah, thats it. lol
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Yes
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I thought there was a clause in for seasonal roads and still being able to use them in conditions like the one in the video. I can't remember what it said specifically, but I know there was a post about it months ago when the winter season was ending and spring was started.
You sir are correct. There was a letter written by the DNR that says you can use 4wd due to acts of nature. Most typically would be snow, flooding and mud slides.

I think the vid shown falls on the ragged edge of it though. I think the intent of the ability to use 4 wheel drive due to mother nature would be interpreted as that you should use the minimum amount needed to travel the road. In other words, it doesn't give you free license to spin your tires & tear things up. It means, put it in 4 wheel drive & do as little damage as possible to get to the other side. Then keep on going. Don't turn around and do it again.
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One more thing is to think about is " Tread Lightly" We as offroaders are only shooting our selfs in the foot by not knowing the orv laws......
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Old June 14th, 2008, 01:18 PM   #18
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I realize all of what has been said, but to set the record straight I have been on club runs where we were on legal seasonal roads or properly marked trails that there were holes that we were in that you did end up spinning and tearing it up a bit,and turning around and giving it a shot again, how ever we were on well used trails or roads and did not get off the marked trail or roads there fore were not creating any additional damage to the surrounding area. I know there are naysayers every where but I don't feel I was in the wrong.

any way to the comment on the exuast it is just a factory replacement catalytic with straight pipe after that.
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you can use 4wd due to acts of nature. Most typically would be snow, flooding and mud slides. it doesn't give you free license to spin your tires & tear things up. It means, put it in 4 wheel drive & do as little damage as possible to get to the other side.



The 2wd applies to "Normal Driving Conditions" on State lands.


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So lets get this straight. I am wheeling illegally every where i go because my truck is fulltime 4 wheel drive? So if i'm on a seasonal road i'm illegal cause i'm in 4 wheel drive.
So when i'm on pavement driving in water i'm illegal, again because i'm in 4 wheel drive??
The "2wd Rule" is NOT based upon the vehicle you are driving, it is based upon the capabilities of the average standard 2wd vehicle.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 04:10 PM   #20
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didn't see this thread going this way, oh well, wonder who the first person is gonna be about chiming in and saying to turn it in to the DNR????
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