Towing with a half ton? - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Tow rigs and trailers
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old April 5th, 2008, 07:43 PM   #1
jthomp
Senior Member
 
jthomp's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-01-06
Location: Linden MI
Posts: 979
iTrader: (11)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default Towing with a half ton?

I don't see myself towing my TJ very often but I can get a deal on a 99 Dodge Ram w/extended cab, 2wd. Mileage is good, lots of new parts and a rebuilt trans. The last two owners are relatives, (so I know the trucks' history). What's everyones' experience with this setup for towing, the furthest runs in the near future would be Drummond and the Badland's. Tell what ya know.
thanks
jthomp is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old April 5th, 2008, 10:08 PM   #2
88yj
collecting parts
 
88yj's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-09-06
Location: Monroe, Mi
Posts: 1,292
iTrader: (26)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to 88yj
Default

I tow with half tons all the time. They do just fine if you can load a trailer correctly and have a trailer brake controller. I prefer to tow with diesel, but a half ton will work fine around here.
88yj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 05:13 AM   #3
jthomp
Senior Member
 
jthomp's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-01-06
Location: Linden MI
Posts: 979
iTrader: (11)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

anybody else have some thoughts before I buy this truck
jthomp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 05:17 AM   #4
Flexin' XJ
Senior Member
 
Flexin' XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-04-07
Location: Holt, MI
Posts: 4,459
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

That is what I plan on doing with my XJ. My girlfriend wants a C/K truck and most likely won't be 3/4 or 1 ton. Should be fine. Make sure you get an auxillary trans cooler if there isn't already one.
Flexin' XJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 05:48 AM   #5
bearlys2005
Senior Member
 
bearlys2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-13-06
Location: Macomb, Michigan
Posts: 955
iTrader: (3)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

Well I had a Silverado 1500 and hauled my CJ, I did not like it at all. I had to drive in the tow setting plus had to take it out of overdirve. My mileage was in the toilet as well as the constant down shifting of the trans told me it was working the truck too hard. I would never drive it hard, I would keep it around 60 at best.

I now have a Ford SD 7.3 diesel and it is completely different. I can leave it in OD, my mileage is not effected much plus no or very little down shifting of the trans. The turbo just spools up as you climb the hills. A good example is by Westbranch, the Silverado would labor hard on that hill but the diesel didn't even notice it. Oh yeah with the diesel I can set the cruise at 70 if I want and it just goes down the road. Now from a daily drive perspective I would rather drive the silverado as a daily driver so it just a matter of what you want and how much towing you're going to do.

Goood luck
bearlys2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 06:09 AM   #6
Nuggets
I fix stuff!
 
Nuggets's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-15-06
Location: Bay City, MI
Posts: 13,424
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bearlys2005 View Post
Well I had a Silverado 1500 and hauled my CJ, I did not like it at all. I had to drive in the tow setting plus had to take it out of overdirve. My mileage was in the toilet as well as the constant down shifting of the trans told me it was working the truck too hard. I would never drive it hard, I would keep it around 60 at best.

I now have a Ford SD 7.3 diesel and it is completely different. I can leave it in OD, my mileage is not effected much plus no or very little down shifting of the trans. The turbo just spools up as you climb the hills. A good example is by Westbranch, the Silverado would labor hard on that hill but the diesel didn't even notice it. Oh yeah with the diesel I can set the cruise at 70 if I want and it just goes down the road. Now from a daily drive perspective I would rather drive the silverado as a daily driver so it just a matter of what you want and how much towing you're going to do.

Goood luck

Great setup but pricey to accuire.

I've towed with 1/2 tons for years, even with straight 6's without a problem. I currently have a 1/2 ton GMC with a 6.2 diesel in it. I can tow a 2000 pound trailer with a 5000 pound truck on it no problem. The 6.2 isn't much of a towing motor but it does what I need it to do. I leave the truck in drive when I tow and I make sure my tonque weight is just right. I currently tow my rig with a 9 liter diesel in a farm truck. Awsome towing, it's like nothing is hooked to the truck but I'm only getting 9 MPG. I am strongly considering pulling my bogger with my pick up to save some fuel money. The bogger trailer combo is very heavy (11k pounds) but I've done it before with the pick up. Pulling this much weight the pick up is not happy at all and downshifts alot but is should be ok on short hauls to local bogs and such.
Nuggets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 07:03 AM   #7
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 21,054
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Default

I started towing with a half ton with a 5.3. Was underpowered. Went to a 3/4 ton with a 6.0. Towed great but rode rough. Now I'm back to a half ton with a 6.0. Perfect!
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 07:05 AM   #8
hosejockey4506
Visiting Admin
 
hosejockey4506's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-04-05
Location: fenton
Posts: 8,772
iTrader: (42)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Default

i used to tow with a half ton all the time you wont have a problem. for the amount you actually tow owning a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup is not a justifiable expense for allot of people. jeeps dont weigh that much at all.
__________________
one of Michigans 99% er club.
hosejockey4506 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 07:11 AM   #9
rargreen
88
 
rargreen's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: Hemlock
Posts: 719
iTrader: (12)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I tow with a 1/2 ton, make sure to use equalizer bars, sway control, trailer brakes, big trans cooler, trans temp. guage, and try to stay under 60mph. You should be fine hauling a Jeep.
rargreen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 07:16 AM   #10
bearlys2005
Senior Member
 
bearlys2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-13-06
Location: Macomb, Michigan
Posts: 955
iTrader: (3)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiterhino View Post
I started towing with a half ton with a 5.3. Was underpowered. Went to a 3/4 ton with a 6.0. Towed great but rode rough. Now I'm back to a half ton with a 6.0. Perfect!
Yeah Jim, mine 1500 was also a 5.3 which was great for pulling itself so the same truck would be much better with the 6.0.
bearlys2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 07:26 AM   #11
91wrangler
Senior Member
 
91wrangler's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-10-07
Location: Wheaton, IL
Posts: 361
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to 91wrangler
Default

I tow with a 96' gmc 1500 2wd with the 5.7. When I moved up here a couple years ago I hauled the jeep up and it towed excellent. Like has been previously said just make sure you have trailer brakes and don't try to run 70+ all day long. I still use the truck to tow mainly locally with out an issue.
91wrangler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 07:40 AM   #12
IFS SUCKS
I like trees
 
IFS SUCKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-20-07
Location: Lansing,MI
Posts: 5,796
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I tow a 27ft travel trailer with a 96 tahoe it tows fine at 65mph but as much money as ive spent making it tow worthy i could of bought a 3/4 ton by now:tonka:
IFS SUCKS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 08:26 AM   #13
kickstand
sHaMoNe!
 
kickstand's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-20-06
Location: fenton
Posts: 30,935
iTrader: (46)
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hosejockey4506 View Post
i used to tow with a half ton all the time you wont have a problem. for the amount you actually tow owning a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup is not a justifiable expense for allot of people. jeeps dont weigh that much at all.
Yup.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rargreen View Post
I tow with a 1/2 ton, make sure to use equalizer bars, sway control, trailer brakes, big trans cooler, trans temp. guage, and try to stay under 60mph. You should be fine hauling a Jeep.
I tow my jeep on the trailer, no equalizer bars, no sway control, no big trans cooler (factory towing package on '07) I do have a temp guage, and I don't get high tranny temps at all. I tow 75-80.

I also tow a 24ft boat fairly often. a 3/4 would be nice, but the cost difference as hoser pointed out doesn't make it justifiable.

I think you will be just fine.

I towed my tj with a 2wd chevy with a 4.3 liter that had 175,000 Miles on it. (back in 2000) and I had no problems, it wasn't fast, but it handled just fine.
kickstand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 08:32 AM   #14
Viperdave
A-1 Dave Costa
 
Join Date: 03-12-06
Location: Wolcott, Ct
Posts: 1,106
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to Viperdave
Default

towed with half tons up until the current diesel...

everything from a 31ft travel trailer to a 21ft boat to car trailers... you just need to learn to drive with them...

Having towed with a 318 ram 2wd extended cab, towed a 31ft travel trailer... it did fine, definately liked its gas... the big thing with that was accelerate down the hills to have speed up the next... Living in the northeast we have these things called hills
Viperdave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 08:38 AM   #15
B
NINJA DEALER
 
B's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-17-08
Location: BROWNSTOWN, MI
Posts: 2,618
iTrader: (29)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I have a new f150 every sunday the mounds was open last year i towed a friends 79 k5 blazer on 35's at 75mph, i did turn the overdrive off but thats all i did, and it towed it fine, i even had to tow an f250 home on that trailer from the mounds when he blew a head gasket. i wish i had a brake controler with that load, but it pulled fine at 65-70 thats just my .02 (07, 5.4L 3.73 supercrew)
B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 11:25 AM   #16
caveman
Club Pen15
 
caveman's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-09-06
Location: Sturgis MI.
Posts: 2,382
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

i've borrowed a 2000 gmc 1500 with the 5.3 towing a 77 f100, 78 f150, and a couple of t-birds and i love that truck. i never once thought it lacked power. it's not as good as my diesel power wise or stoping, but that will be my next truck if diesel stays more than gas....
caveman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 11:29 AM   #17
SBC YJ
Heavy Chevy
 
SBC YJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-01-07
Location: North Muskegon
Posts: 1,183
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I've towed some heavy shit with my K-1500. Electric Brakes are a must...and like said before load it correctly. My buddy has a 1/2 ton dodge 4x4...his trailer has those load levelers and he put a helper spring on too. Hauls his large cj-7 around
SBC YJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #18
nixxerRsixxer
Homewrecker
 
nixxerRsixxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: humanresources
Posts: 3,280
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to nixxerRsixxer Send a message via AIM to nixxerRsixxer Send a message via Yahoo to nixxerRsixxer
Default

06 Dodge Ram 5.7L 3.92s stupid 20s, Electric Brake Controller, Load Equalizer, 20" Enclosed Trailer.. it will pull to about 90-95 before the trailer starts just being a big wind brake.. mileage at 75 is around 10-11 depending on terrain and headwind.. biggest downfall is the trailer's wind resistance.. and honestly its not much better towing in my dads 03.5 3500 DRW Diesel.. could be because his has 3.55s (oh and i forgot .. ive yet to change the oil in my ram .. 17k miles im sure thats not helping my mileage much :D )

my next truck will most likely be an 09 2500 Hemi.. and as many problems as i see friends/acquaintance's having with dodge/gm/ford diesels ill prolly just pass..
__________________
He had a steady job and watched what he spent.
He'd say I don't believe in payin' no goddamn rent.
I'll squirrel away every goddamn cent
and buy my own damn house in Kalamazoo.
nixxerRsixxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 03:11 PM   #19
Nuggets
I fix stuff!
 
Nuggets's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-15-06
Location: Bay City, MI
Posts: 13,424
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nixxerRsixxer View Post
06 Dodge Ram 5.7L 3.92s stupid 20s, Electric Brake Controller, Load Equalizer, 20" Enclosed Trailer.. it will pull to about 90-95 before the trailer starts just being a big wind brake.. mileage at 75 is around 10-11 depending on terrain and headwind.. biggest downfall is the trailer's wind resistance.. and honestly its not much better towing in my dads 03.5 3500 DRW Diesel.. could be because his has 3.55s (oh and i forgot .. ive yet to change the oil in my ram .. 17k miles im sure thats not helping my mileage much :D )

my next truck will most likely be an 09 2500 Hemi.. and as many problems as i see friends/acquaintance's having with dodge/gm/ford diesels ill prolly just pass..

What problems are the Dodges having? Haven't heard much from that camp.
Nuggets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #20
nixxerRsixxer
Homewrecker
 
nixxerRsixxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: humanresources
Posts: 3,280
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to nixxerRsixxer Send a message via AIM to nixxerRsixxer Send a message via Yahoo to nixxerRsixxer
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
What problems are the Dodges having? Haven't heard much from that camp.
staying running .. lift pumps.. fuel filters..

i still would rather have a dodge diesel then the rest but its not in my budget and i dont see that great of an advantage..
__________________
He had a steady job and watched what he spent.
He'd say I don't believe in payin' no goddamn rent.
I'll squirrel away every goddamn cent
and buy my own damn house in Kalamazoo.
nixxerRsixxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Tow rigs and trailers

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:25 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.29753 seconds with 82 queries