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Old June 4th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #1
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Contemplating upgrading to a 29er...

If you were set on going the 29er route, and you had these two options, which would you choose?

New: 2008 Gary Fisher Cobia:
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Spec Name Gary Fisher Cobia
Frame Fisher Platinum Series ZR9000 aluminum, G2 29-inch Geometry
Fork RockShox Tora Solo 318 Air, 80mm-travel
Rims/Wheels Bontrager Ranger Disc
Hubs Shimano M475
Tires Bontrager Jones ACX, 29 x 2.2
Crankset Shimano
Chainwheel 44/32/22
Front Derailleur Shimano Deore
Rear Derailleur SRAM X-5
Rear Cogs SRAM PG-950, 9-speed: 11-34
Shifters SRAM X-5
Handlebars Bontrager Big Sweep
Stem Bontrager Sport
Brake Levers Avid FR-5
Brakes Avid BB5 mechanical-disc
Pedals Aluminum platform
Saddle Bontrager Race
Seat Post Bontrager Sport
Used on Craigslist: 2006 Gary Fisher X-Caliber
http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...1964&Type=bike
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Bicycle Type Mountain bike, front suspension
Sugg Retail Unspecified
Weight Unspecified
Sizes SM (15.5"), MD (17.5"), LG (19"), XL (21")
Colors

Frame & Fork
Frame Construction TIG-welded
Frame Tubing Material Platinum Series ZR9000 aluminum
Fork Brand & Model RockShox Reba SL Dual Air 29, 80mm travel
Fork Material Aluminum/magnesium, single crown
Rear Shock Not applicable

Components
Component Group Mountain Mix
Brakeset Avid BB7 brakes, Avid FR-5 levers
Shift Levers SRAM X.7 Triggers
Front Derailleur Shimano FD-M510 Deore
Rear Derailleur SRAM X.7
Crankset Bontrager Select, 22/32/44 teeth
Pedals Shimano PD-M505
Bottom Bracket TruVativ GIGA pipe
BB Shell Width Unspecified
Rear Cogs 9-speed, 11 - 34 teeth
Chain Shimano CN-HG73, 1/2 x 3/32"
Seatpost Bontrager Sport
Saddle Bontrager Race Lux
Handlebar Bontrager Select OS
Handlebar Extensions Not included
Handlebar Stem Bontrager Select OS
Headset 1 1/8" threadless Aheadset

Wheels
Hubs Bontrager Superstock Disc
Rims Bontrager Superstock Disc
Tires 29 x 2.25" Bontrager Jones XR
Spoke Brand Unspecified
Spoke Nipples Unspecified
Which would you choose and why? If none of the above, why?
Is the used bike a better bike despite being 2 years older? What would you pay for the used bike?

Thanks much! Really enjoying the mountain bike this so far this year, and I went with the majority recommendation of Time ATAC's, and I love them.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 02:54 PM   #2
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eh i'm much more of a 69'er
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eh i'm much more of a 69'er
I enjoy 69'in too, but out of the 2 options above, what's your opinion...

And yes, I'm kidding about 69'in.. I'm considering that as well.
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Old June 4th, 2008, 03:21 PM   #4
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I would buy the cobia, and here is why:

The cobia is a designed 29er bike, the x-caliber is a 26 or 29er.
The x-caliber is used? making free warranty work not free.

But there is the consideration that the x-cal has better compenents all across the board, slightly better and hardly noticable, and will probably be a touch lighter.

Then there is the fact that the cobia looks hot in grey, and the x-cal will be loud in either bright orange or green ( I forget) , and you will never hear the end of it from your riding buddies about having a loud color bike. Ask me how I know.


Loud color fisher bikes suck!! .................. not
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Maybe Kirby will see this. He's the mountain bike king.
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I have not heard great things about the 29er Tora. Read some of the reviews on MTBR.com. I seem to remember something about the lowers separating from the uppers.

The BB7's are great breaks, much nicer than the BB5 due to being able to adjust both of the pads.

What is the price of the X-cal? Id lean towards that if the price is near that of the new one. If its less, and its the right size, id jump on it.
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On CL he's asking $1200, but I am not going to pay that much...

Thanks for the comments again...
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On CL he's asking $1200, but I am not going to pay that much...

Thanks for the comments again...
The simple answer to the initial question is which one fits the best? I have found after going through about 9 mountain bikes that it doesn't matter what the parts are, but how comfortable the bike is for your body, period!

What I would do is check a lot of different manufacturer's and how the bikes fit. Then look for the bike that fits best in that frame geometry in your price range. You can always upgrade components.

I like the 29'ers, but they don't feel natural under me since I am a short guy. I have a 2004 Gary Fisher Race and it is awsome for me. My favorite bike ever was a Kona hardtail.

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I go around 6'3" and I LOVE my 29er. I feel much more confident on it than I ever did on a 26" bike. Mine has a very steep head tube angle (74* with my current fork), which makes it very twitchy, and fast like any 26" bike.

Either bike you purchase, I am sure that you will be happy with. The more that I think about it, if the price is close, Id probably go with the new bike, rather than inheriting a bike that needs work.
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Go with the X-cal.
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Loud color fisher bikes suck!! .................. not
I have a Paragon with the same colors.
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Bright red and white= kinda stupid

Bright red, white and carbon fiber, covered in mud= best looking bike ever

As somebody else said, don't really worry about components though get the bike that fits the best because you can always upgrade. I bought the base model hifi just because they didn't offer the components I wanted at any level, so I changed them all.
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Can anyone identify this model of Specialized? I've been all over Specialized archive section and I can't find it to get the specs...

It's titled Specialized FSR Expert, but that classifies 70% of all their models...

If you are able to identify it... any comments in regards to it?

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Can anyone identify this model of Specialized? I've been all over Specialized archive section and I can't find it to get the specs...

It's titled Specialized FSR Expert, but that classifies 70% of all their models...

If you are able to identify it... any comments in regards to it?

its not a 29er, and its old.
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