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Old June 3rd, 2008, 07:06 PM   #21
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take proof youv had it recalibrated my buddy got outa a 70 in a 55 by bring in a paper saying it had been redone and he didnt get anything. pissed the cop to
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 07:06 PM   #22
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If you go to court and loose. You will have addittional court fees to pay on top of the fine. I would pay the fine and move on. 5 over on the freeway 0 points to your license, no affect to your insurance.
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I thought about the extra court cost, but its too late now. The hearing is already in the works. I called earlier.

I am going to bring my speedo calibration and if the cop won't budge I'll give it to the magistrate...if she don't buy it, I'll wipe my ass with it, pay the fine, pay the court cost...get 0 points and cry all the way home cause I just blew my "Jeep Fund".
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 07:14 PM   #24
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burn the cop's fish tank to the ground!
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If you go to court and loose. You will have addittional court fees to pay on top of the fine. I would pay the fine and move on. 5 over on the freeway 0 points to your license, no affect to your insurance.

you are an ass and know nothing, its a moving violation and it will affect your insurance rates...insurance companies have their own point system seperate from the SOS...
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I just recieved and e-mail from Deputy Ben Dover at the Oakland County Sheriff's office (I'm friends with his wife Eileen Dover). This is what Deputy Dover says:

1. Police are being "encouraged" to report in on the pre-scheduled court dates. Thier hours have been cut and no overtime is allowed in most areas. The one exception is on thier court day. They can get O.T. approved if it is court related.

2. Money is the bottom line. The state, county or city wants cash and they do not like signing off on tickets. Your best bet is to ask him to reduce the ticket to a "defective equipment" charge. This will be on non-moving violation and the fine is less then speeding.

3. Show the officer and Judge respect. It will go a long way.



Thanks, Ben! (by the way, names have been changed to protect the corrupt).
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If you go to court and loose. You will have addittional court fees to pay on top of the fine. I would pay the fine and move on. 5 over on the freeway 0 points to your license, no affect to your insurance.
WTF are you talking about willis? I've lost over 10 informal hearings and never gotten extra charges.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 07:46 PM   #28
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Fatty Matty said you should threaten the cop with rape. he mighta let you off.
Tried this friday night, I still ended up in jail.
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you are an ass and know nothing, its a moving violation and it will affect your insurance rates...insurance companies have their own point system seperate from the SOS...
I got a ticket on I-75 for 5 over. I sent in the payment and it had no affect on my insurance. The cost for the ticket was 120 dollars, paid by check. It still has not affected my insurance. Even though it will be removed from my insurance this year even if it did.

I asked my insurance agent about this. If no points are reported by the State then the insurance company can not charge points against you.

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WTF are you talking about willis? I've lost over 10 informal hearings and never gotten extra charges.
Informal hearings are different then taking it to court with a formal hearing. I have never heard of anyone winning at an informal hearing. Formal Hearings infront of Judges if you loose you will have court fees to pay. They usually are 25-50 dollars on top of the original fine. This all depends on the county and court you have to go to though.
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insurance companies have their own point system seperate than the SOS...even if the ticket drops from your record it could stay with your insurance company much longer as there is no regulation as to how long they can hold it against you, it's their company, their rules...don't beleive me call them and ask them....
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Informal hearings are different then taking it to court with a formal hearing. I have never heard of anyone winning at an informal hearing. Formal Hearings infront of Judges if you loose you will have court fees to pay. They usually are 25-50 dollars on top of the original fine. This all depends on the county and court you have to go to though.
Well, let me be the 1st to inform you. It happens. I have approx a 2-1 win adverage. I've won right around 20 or so.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 08:00 PM   #33
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insurance companies have their own point system seperate than the SOS...even if the ticket drops from your record it could stay with your insurance company much longer as there is no regulation as to how long they can hold it against you, it's their company, their rules...don't beleive me call them and ask them....
Triple A holds points against you for 3 years. If no points are reported when they do a license check then Triple A does not charge points against you. I been with the same insurance company my whole life. Dealt with the same insurance agent since I got my license 14 years ago.

I know the SOS point system. I also know how my insurance company works.
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Triple A holds points against you for 3 years. If no points are reported when they do a license check then Triple A does not charge points against you. I been with the same insurance company my whole life. Dealt with the same insurance agent since I got my license 14 years ago.

I know the SOS point system. I also know how my insurance company works.

doesn't change the fact you are a moron
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Well, let me be the 1st to inform you. It happens. I have approx a 2-1 win adverage. I've won right around 20 or so.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but I have never heard of anyone winning at an informal hearing. Until now that is, if your able to win at informal hearings then great. But I prefer a formal hearing. If the cop was a pos then I request trial by jury. I did this once in Lenawee County and the ticket was thrown out by the judge before the trial even started.

My record of winning with a formal hearing is about the same for you with informal hearings.

My lawyer always told me to do formal hearings.
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doesn't change the fact you are a moron
Go look in a mirror and repeat what you just said.
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Not saying it doesn't happen, but I have never heard of anyone winning at an informal hearing. Until now that is, if your able to win at informal hearings then great. But I prefer a formal hearing. If the cop was a pos then I request trial by jury. I did this once in Lenawee County and the ticket was thrown out by the judge before the trial even started.

My record of winning with a formal hearing is about the same for you with informal hearings.

My lawyer always told me to do formal hearings.
I have also had very good luck with informal hearings. Only one did not turn out in my favor... the rest (5 or 6) were all reduced to non-moving violation charges or thrown out! Good luck with the ticket. When you talk to the cop before hand, ask for the defective equipment ticket!
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Beat a speeding ticket??


I guess I would use a bat.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 09:14 PM   #39
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I don't know why BigCountry even resonds to these types of questions. He fucks every one of them up and hands out a whole bunch of mis-information.

If you truly believe you weren't speeding, then set up an informal hearing. If you lose there, you get a second chance at a formal hearing. You have to hire an attorney though for the formal. BigCountry wants to go right to the formal. I'd rather have two chances of winning, not one.

Most insurance companies now do computerized random checks of driving records. Why? They don't want to insure shitty drivers. Shitty drivers cost them money. A speeding ticket is a speeding ticket to an insurance company and as Mike Hancho said, the insurance companies all have their own point system totally different and separate from the SOS system.

By the way, I'm sure you weren't speeding [sarcasm intended]. Sometimes cops just stop random cars and wrongfully accuse them of speeding for no other reason except to be a prick. Ever notice how many people who claim they weren't speeding when they got ticketed? Kind of like car accidents. If somebody is in one, they always claim they weren't the ones at fault.
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fwiw, my insurance hasn't been effected by the 5 over i got a year ago on I-94.
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