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Old May 31st, 2008, 10:05 PM   #1
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Default wow, what a crappy/awesome/scary day on the water today.

Where the heck do I start?

Sol Goode and I launched out of Selfridge to go watch the air races, water was rough. Bearable, but rough. So about 3/4's of the way to the Detroit river I realize I have very little throttle response and I am way down on power. So I slow the boat down to check it out. Couldn't visually see anything wrong, but I thought I may have a loose plug wire somewhere....I could idle, but could not come up on plane at all...so we decided to idle into the bar and diagnose it there.

Sol Goode was a ways behind us and blew right by us on his way to the races as we had drifted quite a ways off course. So I got ahold of him and relayed the problems we were having to him and told him to enjoy the races and that we'd call him if we needed a ride.

Found that I had lost a connection to one of my coil packs which left me down 2 cylinders and lots of power. In turn I idled about an hour and a half to the bar and fowled every plug in the motor. Spent the next 3 hours tracking down some plugs. Finally we do and my good buddy hacksaw and I decide to start walking. We bum a ride from some guy and get the plugs.

Swap them out, all is good, decide to go visit out buddy Roger over on the south channel....So we head out of jacks and the boat jumps up on plane and all is good, except for the fact that old mother nature kicked up some 3's and 4's out on the lake. 40 mph max and I am in the air every step of the way.

Half way to the south channel we notice we are being tracked down by the coasties.....we stop, checks my regs, safety gear, lifejackets (which everyone already had on) and he lets us go....no idea why he decided to pull us over, we couldnt speed, we were the only boat on the water, etc......

So shortly after that at about 20 mph we take about half of a 5 footer OVER my bow!! The water was about 6-12 inches deep IN the boat!! I honestly thought we had sunk the boat, I flipped on the bilg pump, checked to make sure everyone was ok, all while trying to keep from taking waves over the stern. I couldnt even get back on plane we had so much water in the boat.

Finally it all pumped out and we were able to get to Roger's place. At that point we decided that it was clearly too rough to be boating and made plans to take the channels to the DNR launch in Algonac and go get my truck and pull out.


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Started out nice, got crappy, fixed the boat, was rough but manageable, got pulled over for some reason by the coasties, got real scary, then hung out at Roger's and it was nice.

Definitely an interesting day.
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Old May 31st, 2008, 10:18 PM   #2
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You also went all through that and the qualifying got canceled today. I was pissed.
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Old May 31st, 2008, 10:20 PM   #3
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I'm still in shock that I didn't sink my boat.....
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That lake can bite you in the ass in a blink, glad to hear everyone made it safe!
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Old May 31st, 2008, 10:34 PM   #5
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You aint kiddin'

We were literally powering up the waves at about 20-25 and letting off at the top, just came down early on one of them and stabbed straight through the next one.

That was the roughest I have seen the lake in 2 years. I've seen it rough, but this one took the cake.
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thats one hell of a story chad. glad you made it.
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Old May 31st, 2008, 10:39 PM   #7
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We were literally powering up the waves at about 20-25 and letting off at the top, just came down early on one of them and stabbed straight through the next one.

That was the roughest I have seen the lake in 2 years. I've seen it rough, but this one took the cake.
sounds like the 10-20 foot waves under the blue water bridge on the day of the powerboat race. now it is all "no wake" on event days
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Old May 31st, 2008, 10:42 PM   #8
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Wow, it looked bad out there. Glad you made it in okay Chad. Sucked driving all of the way across the state to drive home without seeing the good planes. At least we got to see a little something in the air.

The coast guard were funny to watch out there. Looked like a hell of a ride for them even.
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Wow, it looked bad out there. Glad you made it in okay Chad. Sucked driving all of the way across the state to drive home without seeing the good planes. At least we got to see a little something in the air.

The coast guard were funny to watch out there. Looked like a hell of a ride for them even.
we were catching a lot of air....when the coastie was trying to run me down I thought about giving him a run for his money just for fun....when i stopped and waited for him he was catching some good air running me down.

We came to the conclusion that he pulled me over to check to see if we were ok. Or he thought we were flat out wasted since we were the only idiots crossing the lake today and not hugging the shore line.
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we were catching a lot of air....when the coastie was trying to run me down I thought about giving him a run for his money just for fun....when i stopped and waited for him he was catching some good air running me down.

We came to the conclusion that he pulled me over to check to see if we were ok. Or he thought we were flat out wasted since we were the only idiots crossing the lake today and not hugging the shore line.
I love stupid big waves when the boat is light on people and fuel... but when you have a full load of passengers, fuel, food, and adult beverages... it's just a PITA.

Good to hear everyone was ok.
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It's just as fun in a bass boat...specially when your dad driving it just powers on through, and your ass is spending more time in the air than attached to the seat. I love the fishing on that lake, but damn I hated when it was rough.

Glad you guys got through it ok!
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Too bad the guy that was going to bring that jet boat to the Red Bull races didn't bring it. I would have liked to see how his 8" of freeboard did.. :tonka:

Yeah, it was pretty rough. There was big rollers in the River too.

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Where's that high-demand boat forum I heard rumblings about? :tonka:

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There was one time I thought I was going over. Romey (riding in the back) gave me a pretty strange look afterwards.

It was stupid out there.
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When I had my 24' boat we put in up at deckers and ran across to metro.. While leaving metro that night they had a small boats warning.. When we left about 2 miles out we had the same thing.. They come and pulled me over.. checked everything.. When I asked why he said he just wanted to make sure we where prepared in case of emergency because of the small craft warning.. Sounds like a crappy time for ya..
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does anyone else see anything wrong with ONE wave almost sinking your boat.. may I recommend some better cockpit drains or actually installing some period?! the coastie probably stopped you because you were there and they were board and needed to fill in X amount of training time doing boardings. I guess be glad you didnt have an I/O to swamp in the back end with all that water. glad your ok and had some fun. I guess this is why I like older baja's and other deep V's with higher free board you can really go out in the big stuff and not worry about stuffing it as bad
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does anyone else see anything wrong with ONE wave almost sinking your boat.. may I recommend some better cockpit drains or actually installing some period?! the coastie probably stopped you because you were there and they were board and needed to fill in X amount of training time doing boardings. I guess be glad you didnt have an I/O to swamp in the back end with all that water. glad your ok and had some fun. I guess this is why I like older baja's and other deep V's with higher free board you can really go out in the big stuff and not worry about stuffing it as bad
... I've read/heard stories of one rogue wave sinking countless boats... obviously not the same thing but still...
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does anyone else see anything wrong with ONE wave almost sinking your boat..
no. all it takes is one wave to wash over your ass end and fill your boat with water. that one wave may not sink you, but it will lower the waterline and let the next waves wash over the side and then your fucked.
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does anyone else see anything wrong with ONE wave almost sinking your boat.. may I recommend some better cockpit drains or actually installing some period?! the coastie probably stopped you because you were there and they were board and needed to fill in X amount of training time doing boardings. I guess be glad you didnt have an I/O to swamp in the back end with all that water. glad your ok and had some fun. I guess this is why I like older baja's and other deep V's with higher free board you can really go out in the big stuff and not worry about stuffing it as bad
Name me one high performance boat that is a self bailing crab boat.

As for cockpit drains I guess I don't follow? My gunnel storage areas all have drains to the bilge, my cupholders that are in the floor all go tot he builge, etc. The water was not in my cockpit, it was in the builge which was full and runs the full length undermy floor AND my cockpit, it had no where to drain to.

We were clearly in water that was too rough, but to be honest we didn't have much of a choice but to slowly press on and be as careful as possible to get to the truck and or calmer water.

The concern once we took the water on was taking another wave over the stern (as steveo mentioned) as we were running "with" the wind and the waves. I had enough water in the boat I couldnt get back on plane so it was a big concern. My boat sits pretty low in the water even with out a couple hundred gallons of water in it.

To be honest I don't think freeboard would have prevented the "stuff" only length would have. (To a degree of course, but most any boat out there that length shouldnt have been out there)

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