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Old April 12th, 2006, 01:56 PM   #1
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Default Furnace & A/C Price Check

For those in the know, is this average or highway robbery?

To cool my ~1400sq ft ranch....

95% efficient furnace w/ variable speed blower
14 seer A/C Unit
includes: programmable t-stat, auto humidifier, and some replace yearly filter system. Installed for $7k. Knock off another $500 for gov't energy tax credit.

Current furnace & A/C unit are 19-21yrs old. One is hot, the other is cold. No pics.

Anyways, sound right or robbery?
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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:04 PM   #2
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I hade mine all replaced and it was about half that. I dont have a humidifier or some replace yearly filter system but that stuff cant be that much more. I could be way off here to but it seems high.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:20 PM   #3
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Hmm, with the AC unit, and a variable speed (DC?) furnace, seems roughly correct.

In 2004 we had our furnace replaced with a new 94% efficient model, which, at the same time we moved the furnace from upstairs to down in the basement(basement wasn't original to the house).. so replaced about 50% of the ductwork in the house, new plenum downstairs, new furnace, new gas lines, new t-stat, etc.. Was about $5000.

that price was reusing the old air conditioner, which was in good shape and properly sized, but does include a new coil and lines installed.

It was a substantial job, a LOT of duct-work in a cramped crawlspace.

Was 100% worth it... with all the duct rebalancing, the house is very even heating now, no cold rooms.

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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:20 PM   #4
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The humidifier and upgraded filter are "included" with the purchase of a furnace and A/C package. So, I'll assume the $800 combined quoted value of those products has been rolled in the package. Nothing is free.

FWIW, for an 80% efficient single stage furnace and 10 seer A/C I was quoted $6000. $6680 for a 90% single and 13 seer A/C. Both of these include the humidifier and upgraded filter.

The humidifier and upgraded filters are must-haves for my wife and I.

IIRC, when my g-ma had her furnace replaced 2yrs ago the cost was ~$4k for a same size house. I don't remember her efficiency and seer ratings.
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Hmm, with the AC unit, and a variable speed (DC?) furnace, seems roughly correct.
Yep. the variable speed is DC.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:23 PM   #6
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it has been a few month's for myself, but i'm an honest person and wouldn't want to see anyone pay too much for anything. what I will do for you is give you the aproximate cost of the items your getting and let you decide.

95% variable speed approx.100K btu's - $1100
36K or 3ton AC 14 seer (min is 13 now) - $1250
programmable T-stat depending on make and model $50-$250
the filter change and other stuff just seems like extra frosting.


I am a heating and cooling contractor if you can wait a liitle bit for me to recover from my accident. I will give you a real deal. definately be in before next winter unless a/c is what your looking for.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:31 PM   #7
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Thanks for the figures. The furnace is what is driving this purchase decision.
During a maintenance visit this week, I learned my heat exchanger has a couple holes and cracks. When I replace the 21yr old furnace, I might as well replace the 19yr old A/C unit. I can relocate the A/C and free up some space on the patio.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:39 PM   #8
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Looks like TJrockdog has some pretty good numbers. The places I deal with can generally get a bit cheaper than that for Goodman stuff. Figure probably no more than 2500 for materials. If you want to pay that kind of money let me do it for you
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I'll pay you with photos/descriptions of my lunch and kisses from Chewy.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 02:42 PM   #10
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holes in the heat exchanger, that is a serious issue. we are nearing the end of heating time. if you believe it's safe to hold off until I could handle it. like I said would definately give you the best price I could possibly give.
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I'll take the kisses, only if a little leg humping is involved.
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Chewy don't hump legs, foo'.

The exchanger holes are not "extreme" but we can ride out the next two-four weeks. We're not going to knee-jerk the purchase. The house is comfortable w/o heat during the day and chilly at night. The CO detector has fresh batteries should we need to run the furnace.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 07:45 PM   #13
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I just had the same type of install done in. It was with Bryant/Payne equipment. Complete with all duct work, permits and gas piping(I had Oil fired hot water heat) for $7200 complete. I hope this helps with comparision.
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Thanks for the feedback.
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The only AC I have is 4 windows down, 60 mph.

Heat? The 12 year old scotch I got in the cupboard at home.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 10:36 PM   #16
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Was 95% that much better then the 90%... I thought the 95% is where it sux the air from a 6" duct ran outside. And because it was warming such colder air you were not gaining much?

This is what a guy at work told me they had to do in his house and said he didnt see much if any improvement in gas usage.

Though I am no heating/cooling person either. But i like my 90% efficiency Trane that I have

My gas+elect never went over 175 this year for one month (Actual rate, I am not on an equalized payment plan)
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Was 95% that much better then the 90%..
The 95% furnace stepped up to a two-stage blower and qualified for the energy tax credit. Not including any gains in actual energy savings performance, the tax credit alone offset the extra cost of the 90% single stage furnace.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 06:39 AM   #18
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Cnat believe Harley hasn't chimed in here. Anyways, how long does a furnace usually last before they start losing what ever it is they lose. Just asking because mine is about 20 - 21 yrs old too and I ve been thinking "new furnace".
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if you can wait than tjrockdogg price is a good one
7k is too much




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FYI, I would stay away from Bryant AC.
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