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Old May 26th, 2008, 12:36 PM   #1
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Default Why do american territories get to vote?

I thought only citizens could do that. As in tax paying citizens. Did I miss something? What do puerto ricans, samoans, virgin islanders, or people from guam contribute to this country in order to deserve the privilige of a vote?
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I thought only citizens could do that. As in tax paying citizens. Did I miss something? What do puerto ricans, samoans, virgin islanders, or people from guam contribute to this country in order to deserve the privilige of a vote?
The citizens of those place get to vote on many things, just not federal elections. I assume what your complaining about is them voting in presidential primaries. If they decide to have a presidential primary they have that right. And the political parties, being private enterprises, can make up whatever rules they want as far as who's vote they decide to count in deciding who will represent them in the general election.
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Congress gets to decide what rights are to be extended to the people living in US territories.
Congress has deemed the people living there to be citizens.

By the way, lots of people that don't pay taxes get to vote.
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Congress gets to decide what rights are to be extended to the people living in US territories.
Congress has deemed the people living there to be citizens.

By the way, lots of people that don't pay taxes get to vote.
I's assuming that the original poster was reacting to the democratic primaries in those places. Congress has absolutely no control over which places are allowed to have presidential primaries nor which primaries to consider in deciding which candidate will represent the party in the general election.
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I's assuming that the original poster was reacting to the democratic primaries in those places. Congress has absolutely no control over which places are allowed to have presidential primaries nor which primaries to consider in deciding which candidate will represent the party in the general election.
I was referring to the OPs comments about citizenship. Congress does confer those rights.
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I thought only citizens could do that. As in tax paying citizens. Did I miss something? What do puerto ricans, samoans, virgin islanders, or people from guam contribute to this country in order to deserve the privilige of a vote?
Me thinks you need to get your facts in order.

Residents who live in American commonwealths do indeed pay federal import/export taxes, commodity taxes, Social Securtiy taxes, Medicare... Residents who live in these places and work for the Federal Government or companies that also do business in the actual states pay federal income taxes as well. As for them getting more than their fair share of government spending, residents of commonwealths are not eligible for SSI benefits and the local governments in these areas receive only a small portion of the Medicaid payments that an actual state would receive (I believe it's only 15%).

In regards to voting, if you don't want these citizens voting in presidential primaries, take that up with the GOP or the DNC. Who votes in the primaries is entirely up to them. These areas have no voice in the electoral college or federal elections in general.

The members of the House of Representatives from American Somoa, Puerto Rico, D.C., Guam, and the Virgin Islands are only allowed to vote on legislation when there is enough of a majority in either direction that their vote would not be binding.

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