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Old April 29th, 2008, 10:45 AM   #1
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Nobody wanted my little Ranger, so I'm tearing it apart this week. I'll probably have a good 2.9 V6/5-speed I'll sell this summer sometime.
My question is: Has anyone done a Ranger V8 swap?
1. mounts. Advance Adaptors kit $99.00
2. Oil Filter relocation needed. Kit from above. $65.00
3. Headers. Headman, full length $299.00, shorties $169.00
4. Radiator. Be-Cool $500.00 or factory Explorer V8, $299.00
5. 8.8" rear axle. Still looking for a 2wd complete.
6. Engine. Looking for a good 302/351W to rebuild. Goal: 400HP
7. Transmission. Either TKO 5-speed or AOD automatic. Still looking.
8. The smile I'll get when I launch for the first time: Priceless!!!
Did I forget anything? I hear there's a book that tells you how to do the swap. Where do I look?
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Old April 29th, 2008, 10:48 AM   #2
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www.jamesduff.com also has v-8 conversion stuff available, even a how to manual if i remember right
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Old April 29th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #3
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me and my buddy are droppin in a 460
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302 swap is easy.. i used a 91-94 explorer 4.0L auto rad, bolts to the factory mounts and its a 3or4 core, used a nice big pusher fan on the front and she never got hot... ive got header, oil filter relocator if your interested..
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Old April 29th, 2008, 01:07 PM   #5
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www.jamesduff.com also has v-8 conversion stuff available, even a how to manual if i remember right
You beat me to it. I hear he also likes to answer questions if you call out there.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 04:11 PM   #6
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http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=1595

Send me a PM if you have more questions. I'll be glad to help. I used mostly the James Duff stuff. Not quite as perfect as I expected it to be, but I've heard far worse horror stories about trying to use other stuff.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 08:11 AM   #7
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Cool, thanks. I've never heard of James Duff, but I'll look to see what he's got.
Sally- I might have to get back to you on the headers and oil filter relocator. What do you want for the stuff? You can PM me with all the info if you want. THanks
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Old April 30th, 2008, 08:19 AM   #8
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when you startn on this? u guna make a post?
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Old May 1st, 2008, 09:15 AM   #9
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I have small blocked a few rangers......and the james duff motor mounts are way to expensive...and place the motor way to high up....the oilpan is like 3" away from the crossmember......there are lots of other ways.....

Pm 88 mudder .. he knows alittle about motor mounts....

I have always made my own out of stock mounts and a square tube block...(less than $50 )

Seams like headers ( stock manifolds ) off a mountaineer or something like that are the cheapest way....( around $50 used )
I like total performance's try-y-headers for $250...there awsome !!! they are off gratiot near m-59....


You can pm me if you want....I also have a duel oil filter relocater...and a custom aluminum heater box....if you need them....cheap !!
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Old May 1st, 2008, 10:29 AM   #10
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I have had 3 rangers, and have looked much into the swapping of a V8 into one. After checking out a bunch, I did find out something interesting. A Chevy V8 fits much better into the ranger because:

1. No oil filter relocation necessary.
2. Standard Chevy oil pan fits great.
3. S-10 V8 headers fit great.
4. No starter clearance issue (some early model rangers you had to notch the frame for the starter, although that might have only been on the 4x4's)

Basically, the chevy is a bolt in. Get some Chevy industrial/truck motor mounts (the kind with the single downward bolt like the ford motors) and drill a hole in each stock mount to fit. Then move your trans cross-member to fit, and you are golden. I've seen this swap done 3-4 times, and it is really clean.

However a ford in a ford is always cool, so I wouldn't back down from a 302/351 swap. They can be done nicely also. Either way, post up some pics when you are done.
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Old May 1st, 2008, 02:57 PM   #11
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I've never heard of the starter issue. I've got the large truck flywheel too with a huge starter.

Couple other things I do have to comment on though,

The ford dual sump pan fits very well too and was standard on a number of cars.

The oil filter relocation thing isn't that bad, unless your dad comes by to "help out" and make certain the adapter is cranked down just a little bit more, and ruins all your angles.

There are Ford headers that wit very well too, a small notch isn't hard to stick in the frame if nessecary.

I guess it comes down to personal preference, either are good engines. And admittedly some of the Chevy stuff is more standardized and easier to find.
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Another thing I forgot. The power steering pump usually hits the box. You have to go with a custom bracket for that on the ford motors, and that usually means swapping out the entire front pulley setup, since ford was kind enough to make specific matched sets. There are some stock car ones that supposedly fit, but I don't know what they are.
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i got some 85 mustang vert mounts if u want em..brand new, i went with solid mounts instead.

The smallblock swap isnt that hard really. Remote oil filter is a must. If your lucky u can fit a fan on the engine, most ppl cant so they run electric fans. Im running a $80 Mustang 3 core rad from Autozone and it keeps it cool. Heater box cutting you will need to do, body lifted or not. I just ran some dryer vent hose for my heater, makes more room. I have a 3" body lift on my 84' and a large bellhousing off a AOD and it fits no problems. I got 94-95 stang manifolds which clear the drivers side really well but passenger side u gotta notch the frame out for it to work. Ive never heard of starter clearance problems. Im running a huge starter off a f-100 and it clears everything no problems.

If your interested I got a 289 smallblock that id sell ,it needs rebuilt but runs great. Needs intake, carb, and id swap on a better pulley system cuz mine sux. Id sell it cheap. I had it in my Ranger , just pulled it.
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Old May 6th, 2008, 10:39 AM   #14
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Thanks for the tips. I've been rolling it around in my mind for a while, Chevy or Ford. I've ran Chevy's my whole life, so I know them inside and out. But, my brother and I slipped a modified 351W into his Capri. Man, did that car make some power!! We went thru 2 5-speed transmissions in a year.
To those who have parts, let me get back to you on them. I'll decide what motor to use, and start gathering parts here. I do have the 302 out of my brother's 83 Capri sitting here. It knocked, but is rebuildable.
I'd like to actually be able to look at one up close to see how they fit a few things.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 10:39 AM   #15
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I've got a diamond plate aluminum heater box...if you decied to run a heater...it's cheap and pretty cool looking....


Good luck on your build
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Old May 29th, 2008, 06:19 PM   #16
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Still haven't started the project yet. With the price of gas going up, that little 2.9L is looking better every day. Maybe I'll wait till fall to get started.
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A problem I keep seeing is people notching the frame to clear the headers. I need all the frame strength I can get, so I don't want to go cutting on it.
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A problem I keep seeing is people notching the frame to clear the headers. I need all the frame strength I can get, so I don't want to go cutting on it.
very true. James Duff longtube headers fit well.
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very true. James Duff longtube headers fit well.
x2, no issues with mine either.
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Do they clear the steering shaft okay?
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