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Old April 28th, 2008, 09:26 PM   #121
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I saw this debate live. The preacher guy keeps bringing up illegal/weird internet porn and Ron Jeremy would say he couldn't comment because he wasn't involved with that. It was that for about 3 hours.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 09:30 PM   #122
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Porn is both realistic AND unrealistic all at the same time? Please allow me to introduce you to the concept of a contradiction. Goodbuzz, meet contraction. Contradiction, meed goodbuzz. A contradiction is when something is "A" and "non-A" at the same time. Your views on pornography are contradictory.
It's no different than any movie or TV show. There can be realistic, and unrealistic elements existing at the same time. No contradiction.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 09:35 PM   #123
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I saw Forgetting Sarah Marshall this weekend, did anybody sense a similarity with the guy from 30 Rock who was in it and Dave Kerwin/LC4X?
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Old April 28th, 2008, 09:36 PM   #124
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I saw this debate live. The preacher guy keeps bringing up illegal/weird internet porn and Ron Jeremy would say he couldn't comment because he wasn't involved with that. It was that for about 3 hours.
Yep, I watched the full video of the debate posted and thats pretty much what I saw.

That seems to be how most of these religion or morals debates go, one side or the other, or both, takes the bobsled right to the bottom of the "slippery slope" and stays there.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 09:49 PM   #125
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It's no different than any movie or TV show. There can be realistic, and unrealistic elements existing at the same time. No contradiction.
Yeah, but do movies or TV cater to one of the strongest, most basic instints we have? I mean, you have the sex filled movies that aren't porn. But that's still not porn, and most actually have decent acting. It's the mixture of fantasy and the super strong emotion of Sexual Desire. God created that desire for reality, not fantasy. I'm all for having sex for real, rather then doing it in fantasy. When I struggle is when I'm two selfish to wait for time to spend with her and get her in the mood. It's about self control both physically, emotionally, and even phsycologically.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 11:09 PM   #126
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Yeah, but do movies or TV cater to one of the strongest, most basic instints we have? I mean, you have the sex filled movies that aren't porn. But that's still not porn, and most actually have decent acting. It's the mixture of fantasy and the super strong emotion of Sexual Desire. God created that desire for reality, not fantasy. I'm all for having sex for real, rather then doing it in fantasy. When I struggle is when I'm two selfish to wait for time to spend with her and get her in the mood. It's about self control both physically, emotionally, and even phsycologically.
Yes, you inability to control yourself has already been established. Not all of us share your lack of self control.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 02:10 AM   #127
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I drop the man-stare if I suspect someone is looking at my wife.
Wouldn't it be more effective to throw bibles?
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Old April 29th, 2008, 06:05 AM   #128
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Wouldn't it be more effective to throw bibles?
just as long as he doesn't go old testament on said guy...no playing the genocide card.



go Dave, drop that "man stare". I wish I was as much of a man as you.:tonka:
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Old April 29th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #129
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also an important aspect to this debate:

The side of the strippers!

With all this internet porn, the strippers are losing business.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...o_n_99079.html
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Old April 29th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #130
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also an important aspect to this debate:

The side of the strippers!

With all this internet porn, the strippers are losing business.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...o_n_99079.html


People take shit way to seriously,hell me and the wife got her dad a stripper for his 60th birthday he's never even been in strip club. It was a fucking riot.People need to learn to loosen up.
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not all porn is like that.
I would suggest that MOST porn is far out there. Most of it is not just some nice couple showing their most intimate moment. Porn has historically gone in downward spiral. The porn industry is all about getting to that next level of shock factor. OMG, some dude just had sex with another man! OMG, that woman just blank blank blank. We all know this. I don't deny their is some more "normal" types of porn out there, but the level that the porn industry has gone to is truely sickening, into pregnant chicks doin it? WE GOT IT! Into farm animals emissions? WE GOT IT!
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People need to learn to loosen up.
thats what he said
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Old April 29th, 2008, 11:25 AM   #133
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I wish I was as much of a man as you.:tonka:
I know it is difficult being a boy, I wish you the best mikey!
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Old April 29th, 2008, 11:26 AM   #134
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Wouldn't it be more effective to throw bibles?
you are always talking about religion, GOSH!
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Old April 29th, 2008, 02:34 PM   #135
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also an important aspect to this debate:

The side of the strippers!

With all this internet porn, the strippers are losing business.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...o_n_99079.html
haha, I just saw this.

poor strippers

the internet is for porn
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Old April 29th, 2008, 02:50 PM   #136
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I would suggest that MOST porn is far out there. But you NEVER watch it, so how do oyu know?Most of it is not just some nice couple showing their most intimate moment. Porn has historically gone in downward spiral. I think it's improved greatly since the '70's... I mean, have you ever seen how hairy the bushes are in those old pornos? OMG!The porn industry is all about getting to that next level of shock factor. OMG, some dude just had sex with another man! OMG, that woman just blank blank blank. We all know this. I don't deny their is some more "normal" types of porn out there, but the level that the porn industry has gone to is truely sickening, into pregnant chicks doin it? WE GOT IT! Into farm animals emissions? WE GOT IT!
I truly believe that the majority of topics in porn have been something people were doing LONG ago. Hell, homosexuality, beastiality, scat, B&D/S&M all go back to the ancient Greeks and before. You should watch Caligula sometime. When it came out it was rated X, but by todays standards Brad Pitt is more racy than that old can of corn.....
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Porn is both realistic AND unrealistic all at the same time? Please allow me to introduce you to the concept of a contradiction. Goodbuzz, meet contraction. Contradiction, meed goodbuzz. A contradiction is when something is "A" and "non-A" at the same time. Your views on pornography are contradictory.
Apparently you didn't actually READ what I wrote, just like you still haven't read your bible, but I'll try again.... Even though the scenes are acted out and pretty unlikely to happen to the average schmuck like you or me (well, not you anyway), I still learn a lot from them by the ACTUAL things that they are doing (as in the sex act itself).

I never needed a movie to tell me how to be passionate or loving, but the porno's sure gave me some great tips on things to do once that's all established....

Nice try though...
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to be fair, I do not think one should have to "work" to stay attracted to their spouse. you can believe what you want if you stare and ogle other fish in the sea and tell yourself that "now now, I have my spouse". sexual lust and appetite are perfectly acceptable things people experience and its also perfectly natural to view others. There's no wrong whatsoever in doing so. subconsciously it may even bring you to admire the person you're with more. In the end there's more to a couples matching/working together than just looks and sexual desire/chemistry anyway. Now, if you want to sit down and preach that its about being true to a religion/god, than I believe you're doing a disservice to your spouse. If you make a commitment to a person your responsible to only 2(3) people. Yourself first and foremost, your spouse, and forbid it whomever you have the potential to be with should the relationship falter/breakdown/end.
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Not Physically, but I have upheld her honor in the fact of people talking about her in a Negitive way.
This is irrelevant. We are talking about someone saying things about another's mate in an admiring or wanting way. If someone is talking about my wife in a negative way I might just bitch slap 'em. If they say my wife is hot I'll look proudly at them and say she's even better in private. If they make physical moves to try to take my woman in front of me, they are disrespecting me, and it is no longer about my wife, it's about disrespecting me, and at that point I start swinging.

You try to take something from me there will be a fight, but if someone that I love wants to leave, that's much different. Those that I love are not MINE. They are not PROPERTY. I have no entitlement to them. They are, at best, on loan. I would likely try to persuade them to stay, but the fact is that even your own wife probably encounters guys here and there that she thinks are attractive in one way or another, or act in ways whe wishes you would be more like. At this point she's still with you. Let your game too far down and she may just walk out the door one day. You better make her feel good about being with you, or she won't be for long (unless of course she's a hog and no one would want her anyway.... She's not a hog is she?).
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I truly believe that the majority of topics in porn have been something people were doing LONG ago. Hell, homosexuality, beastiality, scat, B&D/S&M all go back to the ancient Greeks and before. You should watch Caligula sometime. When it came out it was rated X, but by todays standards Brad Pitt is more racy than that old can of corn.....
First, I saw porn as a boy, like everyone else did, and I have seen it time to time since, and have committed some time ago to never view it again, and God willing, I will keep it that way. But I have tried to learn a lot about sexuality, in part because it was misrepresented to me as a boy in porn, and because I got married a few years back and wanted to use it appropriately. The point is this, I understand sexuality, and I understand the porn industry and its bastardization of sex. I know people got freeky a long time ago, but those were actual acts they did, not watching videos of people doing the same thing. Porn has changed the nature of sexuality quite a bit, and it seems to do more harm than good, that is the point .
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