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Old April 7th, 2006, 01:38 PM   #41
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Haggar, I know you think that just because I married to a cop, I bleed blue, but you would be wrong. I know that there are cops that make mistakes or break the law and think their badge should get them out of it, but that doesn't mean I agree with it. A cop can use discretion (sorry on that spelling) regardless if the person is a cop or not. It seems to me that since you haven't been that lucky, you have an axe to grind with cops or those that may support what they do.

This is the last time I will respond to any of your bullshit here or anywhere else, we will ALWAYS disagree on this subject and that should be the end of it. Please don't bring me into your crap anymore. (I'm not speaking of this thread or post, but one you've made in the past that I hadn't even responded to.)

No, I simply think that this is a standard case of double standard.

People look at this differently because its an officer that pulled in front of traffic across a freeway, instead of a regular guy.



Personally, I have no problems. I have no points on my record, and follow the laws. Most cops I know are decent. I know of a few on the OCSD that are bad eggs. But every force has that.

I don't believe they should be above the law, which, for many many little things, they are.

What would this case be if that wasn't a cruiser? Honestly? And if you believe in law, you need to understand why the suggestion that the drunk forfeits his rights because he's driving drunk, you need to understand why that leads to the unravelling of order.


Like I said, I have NO problems with cops, law, or justice. LOL, I think we know just about all the judges, magistrates, and big lawyers in this section of the state, for all of our work with the center for civic education through law, which my wife worked at for years.

You started this inflammatory post, obviously you beleive on thing. I believe in law, and rights, and I think this guy has a legal right to do what he's doing. The officer obviously contributed to this guys injuries.

I think the guy is scum for driving drunk, but even scum have rights.

Otherwise, then whats to stop me from vigilante justice, can I murder drunks because they are driving? As a law family, I would think you see the value in this, its just that this is a difficult case because of the specifics.


Now, if you think I'm spouting bullshit, talk to Big Daddy Rubicon, he can show you where the Complain About Jesus line is...

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Old April 7th, 2006, 02:12 PM   #42
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Here is a pretty good artical.... Also didn't know the officer or the drunk in the back didn't have a seat belt on......

http://tagolden.com/garydavis.pdf

That article makes it sound like it happened on the southbound side of the highway, so now I'm getting confused.


Either way it does reveal a few more facts, although I find the authors motives fairly suspicious.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 02:15 PM   #43
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Here is a pretty good artical.... Also didn't know the officer or the drunk in the back didn't have a seat belt on......

http://tagolden.com/garydavis.pdf


Note: The above article advocated that the Chief of Police of Bloomfield Township be replaced. The Chief abruptly resigned January 20, 2006, effective February 3, 2006.

very good article Dave,

unfortunate tradgedy, alot more information in that article. which brings me back to opinions. alot of people make quick opinions and some need more info to make an opinion. I would have to say that this whole ordeal even on this board has made people stop and think even if just for a second. that itself would be the biggest blessing to come out of this whole ordeal.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 02:20 PM   #44
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If I recall right, this was south bound 75, south of Square Lake rd. He went across all lanes to get to north bound 75 so he could get off at Square Lake Rd and take that to Telegraph.......

That are now has guard rails..
Found this in an Oakland Press article:

Officer Gary Davis, a 12-year veteran of the Bloomfield Township Police Department, had pulled over a suspected drunken driver at about 3 a.m. Thursday morning on Interstate 75 between Coolidge and Crooks roads in Troy, just outside of Bloomfield Township.

After making the arrest and placing the suspect in his patrol car, 36-year-old Davis - whose vehicle had been on the right shoulder of southbound I-75 - had crossed several lanes of traffic to enter a turnabout in the freeway's median to head north when a southbound vehicle struck the driver's side of Davis' car.

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http://www.courttv.com/trials/taped/...ackground.html

This was written under the defense among other things:
"The defense contended that the median was only to be used by authorized vehicles during emergency situations, and that Campbell had the right-of-way that evening."

I wonder if police are legally allowed to use these, just as a convenience. Why are salt trucks and plow trucks using these???? The article doesn't give a conclusion the there defense on medians....
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Old April 7th, 2006, 03:10 PM   #45
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i think all of the police in the world should be able to i think that would teach him.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 10:14 PM   #46
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Found this in an Oakland Press article:


This was written under the defense among other things:
"The defense contended that the median was only to be used by authorized vehicles during emergency situations, and that Campbell had the right-of-way that evening."

I wonder if police are legally allowed to use these, just as a convenience. Why are salt trucks and plow trucks using these???? The article doesn't give a conclusion the there defense on medians....

Actually, the spot that he was turning around at, isn't a legal turnaround. Its at the break at the end of the concrete barrier, they use it as a turn around and a speed trap spot, but its not an emergency vehicle turnaround.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 10:17 PM   #47
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wow, i love mighigans judicial system :miff:
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Old April 7th, 2006, 11:32 PM   #48
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Actually, the spot that he was turning around at, isn't a legal turnaround. Its at the break at the end of the concrete barrier, they use it as a turn around and a speed trap spot, but its not an emergency vehicle turnaround.

Thursday morning on Interstate 75 between Coolidge and Crooks roads in Troy, just outside of Bloomfield Township.

Not where you think it is......
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Old April 8th, 2006, 12:25 AM   #49
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Never mind, to many think they know it all here and don't have a clue! It's sad for all of them.
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