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Old April 21st, 2008, 10:25 PM   #1
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I know this is short notice, but I'm going to go look at a 97 power-stroke 7.3 turbo-diesel 4x4 crew tomorrow morning. Body is beat, but it runs and drive nice supposedly and comes with a nice trailer. The seller is the original owner, and the trans is new with receipts. Anything I should be looking for on this truck? The price is right, but I wanted to see if there is anything I should watch out for.
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Old April 21st, 2008, 10:27 PM   #2
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Old April 21st, 2008, 10:34 PM   #3
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ive been reading alot about the 7.3s and one thing i found was that people leave the stock air intake and it gets dust in the turbo and throught the engine and that gets very messy. i was looking at a 00. and that is what i was told to watch out for. auto or stick?
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Auto, which I already know the E40D has problems. If it goes, I'd just swap in a ZF 5 or 6 speed anyways.
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yea the e4od it strong behind the 351, 302 but the torque a diesel makes is a bit much. good luck with the diesel i always have wanted one.
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ive been reading alot about the 7.3s and one thing i found was that people leave the stock air intake and it gets dust in the turbo and throught the engine and that gets very messy.
the stock airboxes on the 97 should be fine... earlier models developed cracks/crevases on the intake side of the filter, which causes dirty air to enter the intake and eventually beat up the impeller wheel on the turbo pretty bad. You can take a flathead screwdriver with you and simply pop the rubber intake hose off the intake side of the turbo and visually inspect the turbo vanes for damage. While you have the rubber intake hose off, push and pull on the turbo vane and push it left and right to check the shaft for endplay. There will be some endplay for sure. Left to right (looking down the vanes) you should feel .10" or less. Any more and the turbo has excessive endplay. Not a big deal for a DD, but something to keep in mind.

Look into the valley of the motor for diesel leaks. Do this with the truck off so you can reach your hand around where you can't see to fel for any small puddles, etc.. fuel leaks in the fuel bowl or on the lifter pump can get expensive.

make sure the truck hasn't been ran yet thet day when you look at it. You want to start it cold from sitting overnight. The wait to start light should stay on for atleast 4-5 seconds, even in this weather. Any less and the glow plugs and relay needs to be replaced.

don't let blue smoke on startup worry you. both of mine have done it. They blow blue cold and once the motor is warm they are fine.

Ask the owner if he knows what diesel coolant additive is. If he says "yes, of course I run it" then you're golden. If he doesn't know what it is, you might have a growing issue. You can't run normal coolant in the diesels... you need DCA to reduce cavitation in the coolant passages. Again, it isn't a show-stopper, but something to be aware of. Cavitation failures seem to be hit or miss.

E4ODs really aren't too bad if you spend a little money on them. You said it was rebuilt, which is great. I would spent the extra coin on an upgraded torque converter, valve body, 6.0L trans cooler and of course a temp gage. Then you'll never have to worry about it.

Also ask if it has been chipped. If it is a stock intake, I doubt anyone would have spent the money on a chip... Some chips out there are better than others. If the downpipe/intake is stock, its hard to damage the motor unless he flat-out over revs the motor and floats the exhaust valves.

There isn't much else I can think of. the 7.3 is stout and hard to damage. listen for valve noise the best you can, which will be tough.

any questions... let me know
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I personally wouldnt drive anything else but a 7.3L PSD, they were the most stout diesel motors on the market for the longest time and they are so easy to upgrade/work on (well those back two glow plugs are kind of a bit*h to get to but other than that). As for the E4OD trannys, we have never had a problem with one of them and we (our company) had 6+ 1 tons driving around on the jobsites which are less than favorable conditions and they all held up (most of the trucks have up towards 200K on them).
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 01:19 PM   #9
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(well those back two glow plugs are kind of a bit*h to get to but other than that)
Not on a 97. :tonka:
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Not on a 97. :tonka:
I agree . . . that good 'ol OBS!!

But still hade to use wobble extensions. (Which means I got to buy more toos )



Edit: if this deal doesn't work I know of a white one that's forsale :tonka:
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 06:30 PM   #11
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Not on a 97. :tonka:
I thought they were because I couldnt see what in the world I was doing, and trying to get the socket (deep well) on the glow plug and then it was a pain in the butt trying to find the right length extension ( 3" w/a wobble head) and then getting the wratchet on it...I dont know maybe I went about things the wrong way but it seems to me that it was like cramming 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag back there...ohh the back two valve cover bolts are fun too
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where can you get this dca locally? Parts store assbags look at me like im an alien when i asked about it, or just the tester.
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napa or ford/international dealer, or most auto stores have a diesel fleet coolant with the additive already mixed in.
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make sure you take off the air tube and make sure the turbo fins arnt sand blasted, if they are dont even look further.
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diggin this one up... I'm looking at a 2000, with 220k... anything else I should be concerned about? They said injectors and pump have been replaced. It has a diablo chip and dual exhaust.
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don't let blue smoke on startup worry you. both of mine have done it. They blow blue cold and once the motor is warm they are fine.
Watch for white smoke though.
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Watch for white smoke though.
yes and no

white smoke can be coolant, but it can also just be unburnt diesel on really cold mornings.
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Nothing more to look at than what's already been mentioned though? Any concerns with the number miles, or bad experiences with the diablo tuner/chip?
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I would ditch the diablo tuner if you end up buying it. Most of the tuners like Edge, Diablo, etc are terrible on the trans. Replace it with custom burns from DP Tuner or Total Diesel Performance.

My first powerstroke had 317K on it when I sold it, mostly stock
My second powerstroke had about 281K on it when it dropped a valve, lower end looked brand new.
I just bought my third stroker with 194K miles on and didn't think twice about the miles, other than knowing the trans would need work soon since it is original.

Plan on the trans going out soon (next 20K miles) if it is still original. They aren't cheap. Mild rebuilds are $1500 on the cheap end up to $4000
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