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Old March 5th, 2008, 08:36 AM   #1
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Fantastic waste of time. F+

Propaganda from both sides.
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do you think it's a legitimate gripe that he doesn't wear a freakin' pin?
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do you think it's a legitimate gripe that he doesn't wear a freakin' pin?
What is his reason for not wearing one?
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What is his reason for not wearing one?
he sees it as a kind of fake patriotism. he's patriotic and he doesn't need a pin to show it.
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do you think it's a legitimate gripe that he doesn't wear a freakin' pin?
Nope.
Like I said, propaganda from both sides. Someone bashing Obama for not wearing one, then someone else picking out busted that wore them.

Stupid.

Really.
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Nope.
Like I said, propaganda from both sides. Someone bashing Obama for not wearing one, then someone else picking out busted that wore them.

Stupid.

Really.
really, i thought it was a clever retort...
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Nothing clever about people searching to discredit.
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Nothing clever about people searching to discredit.
whaa? where would we be if we couldn't discredit people?
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whaa? where would we be if we couldn't discredit people?
I know, I know.

It is interesting watching Clinton's tactics vs. Obama's.
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he sees it as a kind of fake patriotism. he's patriotic and he doesn't need a pin to show it.
haha, obama sux
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haha, obama sux
I tell you what, the way GW has pissed off most Americans these past eight years, there is most likely every possible chance people will vote dem0cratic in this next election.

I don't know about you, but I hope:

1. Obama beats Clinton.
2. Obama doesn't get shot once elected to office (by some ignorant racist or someone the clinton's pay) - because Hillary will most like become president.

Not many things scare me, but Hillary Clinton becoming president is at the top of the list.
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do you think it's a legitimate gripe that he doesn't wear a freakin' pin?
if his intention is to step to the front and lead this great country of ours, then YES its legitamate. sometimes its the small things that show what a persons really truly all about. And if he is to be our leader then he damn well better have a very strong patriotic sense about him (He better find a way to make us believe it or an even better way to fake it). The level of Pride he has in the Country will be taxed and tested severly as we the people expect him to be Head of Government and Head of State (OKA the Double Expectations Gap), the pin might be a small detail, but it could potentially speaks volumes about his actual outlook on our country. For as long as i can remember politicians have worn that flag..and for the most part i hope they do so with great pride. it reflects in a negative light if he is to lazy to pin on the flag of the country for which he intends to lead prior to stepping in front of the camera (even worse that he chooses to stand mute during a recession of the Pledge of Allegiance. these actions will cause us (the constiuents) to not trust him and question te level of his true patriotism..doesnt matter that we dont truly trust politicians in the first place..but when it comes time for him to play the part of Head Of State and lead these people thru another 9/11 or oklahoma city type scenario his lack of patriotism will show thru.

at this time dumb move on his part....
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if his intention is to step to the front and lead this great country of ours, then YES its legitamate. sometimes its the small things that show what a persons really truly all about. And if he is to be our leader then he damn well better have a very strong patriotic sense about him (He better find a way to make us believe it or an even better way to fake it). The level of Pride he has in the Country will be taxed and tested severly as we the people expect him to be Head of Government and Head of State (OKA the Double Expectations Gap), the pin might be a small detail, but it could potentially speaks volumes about his actual outlook on our country. For as long as i can remember politicians have worn that flag..and for the most part i hope they do so with great pride. it reflects in a negative light if he is to lazy to pin on the flag of the country for which he intends to lead prior to stepping in front of the camera (even worse that he chooses to stand mute during a recession of the Pledge of Allegiance. these actions will cause us (the constiuents) to not trust him and question te level of his true patriotism..doesnt matter that we dont truly trust politicians in the first place..but when it comes time for him to play the part of Head Of State and lead these people thru another 9/11 or oklahoma city type scenario his lack of patriotism will show thru.

at this time dumb move on his part....
i disagree. maybe we should all wear uncle sam costumes to make sure no one questions our patriotism. :tonka:

p.s. obama will be our next president.
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Unless Hillary pulls out the dirty tricks and outright cheats (something that is not at all above her) Obama's got it sewn up.

I'd call the race between Obama and McCain about even at this point.

However as the campaign progresses we'll see what emerges. Obama's going to hammer on McCain's support for the war (since he's pretty centrist/pseudo-liberal about a lot of other issues) and McCain just needs to point out that Obama is an empty suit - a slick-talking, well-marketed empty suit. The only thing separating him from Kwame Kilpatrick is (a) much more intelligence and (b) a better machine - but content-wise, they're two peas in a pod.
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i disagree. maybe we should all wear uncle sam costumes to make sure no one questions our patriotism. :tonka:

p.s. obama will be our next president.
Not if his racist preacher has anything to do with it. That one's going to hurt him.
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I made an interesting observation recently that pertains to part of this thread.

The question is, should a politician wear a flag lapel pin, epecially if that politician aspires to the office of President.

I was watching a show last week about the building and christening (Oct. 2006) of the George H.W. Bush, CVN 77, last of the Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers. Quite and interesting show. A very proud day for the Bush family. I can honestly say that I understand the pride W must have felt seeing a ship of this class being named after his father. I know I feel great pride in the accomplishments of my own father. Not on the same world stage certainly, but parental pride is parental pride.

What I also noticed was that George H.W. Bush was NOT wearing any kind of lapel pin, flag or otherwise.

My question, if a candidate is somehow less patriotic simply by not wearing a pin, would that not hold true for someone who has held the office when he is at an official government function?

I know this is bringing up an old post, but what I saw just came back to me.
I want anyone reading this to understand I do not question the patriotism of anyone who has held, is holding or aspires to hold the office of the President of the United States. Quite the opposite and I challenge all to recognize that these people are true patriots in every sense of the word.

For a picture proof of what I am saying, click this: http://www.nn.northropgrumman.com/bush/christening.html as one example showing the lack of pin.

Now, please carry on with your day.
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I made an interesting observation recently that pertains to part of this thread.

The question is, should a politician wear a flag lapel pin, epecially if that politician aspires to the office of President.

I was watching a show last week about the building and christening (Oct. 2006) of the George H.W. Bush, CVN 77, last of the Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers. Quite and interesting show. A very proud day for the Bush family. I can honestly say that I understand the pride W must have felt seeing a ship of this class being named after his father. I know I feel great pride in the accomplishments of my own father. Not on the same world stage certainly, but parental pride is parental pride.

What I also noticed was that George H.W. Bush was NOT wearing any kind of lapel pin, flag or otherwise.

My question, if a candidate is somehow less patriotic simply by not wearing a pin, would that not hold true for someone who has held the office when he is at an official government function?

I know this is bringing up an old post, but what I saw just came back to me.
I want anyone reading this to understand I do not question the patriotism of anyone who has held, is holding or aspires to hold the office of the President of the United States. Quite the opposite and I challenge all to recognize that these people are true patriots in every sense of the word.

For a picture proof of what I am saying, click this: http://www.nn.northropgrumman.com/bush/christening.html as one example showing the lack of pin.

Now, please carry on with your day.
Pete, it's only an issue of patriotism when it's a democrat not wearing a pin.
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