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Old April 16th, 2008, 10:01 PM   #61
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When you figure those little bottles of water everyone is buying works out to almost $20 per gallon for something that is "free". The price of gas should not be an issue.

You are not buying 20-30 gallons of water at a time every few days either so that logic = fail.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 10:10 PM   #62
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It hasn't effected me in a direct; "gas costs 'x' so I'm going to 'y' " type of way. obviously the more I have to pay for gas the less i have to do other things. I'm also considering buying a small car or motorcycle for driving to work and back and around town, and have looked into the possibility using more public transportation.
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Part of the whole gas price increase is because the value of the dollar keeps going down. If it was worth what the euro was right now (comparitvely) we would be at about$58 a barrel. The value of the oil is in a way staying the same while the value decreases meaning it takes more to buy less.

And yes gas prices have mainly effected me on the way I spent what little free time I have. The past 2 weeks I have not gone wheeling for either of the club openers and I won't be going this weekend. Why, cause I can't afford $50 in gas for the truck + $50 in gas for the jeep. Heck through in a couple sandwiches, bottle of gatorade, bag of chips. couple bottles of fluids incase someone needs one and I'm at close to $150. To me thats just not feasable(sp) on a college budget working part time. I don't drive unless I have to and when I do I plan so I make the most out of my trips. I still drive for work when it's possible but in all reality when I had a 45 minute drive to work one way and I was only going to be at work for 3hrs it was not worth it.

Heck I'm selling one of my trucks to put the money towards a new bike along with the money from selling my old bike. I know that I'm gonna be riding a lot this summer and 2 trucks and a jeep is not necessary. So why not take the money and get a bike thats more comfortable and designed to be riden more.
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Old April 17th, 2008, 01:02 AM   #64
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I'm going back to 2 wheels for running this summer.Hafta.It ain't going to get any better and ya better do something.I'll run the trucks on the weekends and when it's raining.
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Old April 17th, 2008, 01:22 AM   #65
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your right i think try a find a oversized carb to over fuel my 360 and hope i can run over a prius (spelling?) or two. Welcome to a ecomony that has been coming for 10 years and gas is something that is like air. You have to have it. Im sorry y'all didn't see this coming.
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Visine equates to $43.00 a gallon. Well worth the money after a left hander on the way to work.
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i was in college and broke once too. cigarettes werent 2.00 a pack and i drove 104 miles round trip for work everyday. If the extra money that gas is gonna cost you maybe you shouldnt spent the $1200 on your new tires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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what if you're stuck in a mortgage you can't get out of to move closer to work? My wife has been job hunting for 3 years hard now and can't find a better place to go. You're assuming people aren't willing to make sacrifices assuming there are ones to make. Some people are stuck in a car loan/lease, some are stuck in a mortgage, some are stuck in a job. Life's a shit filled twinkie and every once in a while you getting the filling.
Then its not really the gas prices that are killing you per se, its your circumstances, your planning, living outside your means, and maybe just dumb luck. I know you have talked about your wife having an Expedition, so, yeah, that would suck for gas.

Again, if gas going up like $100-$200 a month is killing you, and you have a house, expidition, built newer jeep, etc then you cut yourself too thin.
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plus if oil stays at over $80 a barrel the finds out west will handle america's oil needs for hundreds of years to come.
Marketing is the controlling factor is gas prices and we all have to pay it.
We as a country are hedging our bets and ethanol is just a marketing ploy.
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Dunno, its just funny sometimes. By its very nature, almost everyone on this site has a vehicle that gets pretty crappy gas mileage (under 20mpg), and is something of a luxury as well.

Like my buddy who has a 27ft boat sitting in his driveway for 2 years because gas is too pricy. Dood, you have a 27ft f'ing boat. Thats like complaining that it costs too much to get your gold polished.



Hehehe, speaking of stuff hauling, since I had both at the same time, a Ford Focus station wagon will haul more stuff than an XJ, and get 50% better gas mileage than an XJ.
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i am 19. Think back when you guys were 19... gas was what... a dollar.... maybe 2 dollars. Kids my age (the ones that work) have to pay all of our f-ing money on driving to work and for what? so we can drive to work and make 0 profit? I am starting to think my generation got f-ed over big time here. There is literally nothing i myself can do except go on these forums and bitch. It's getting ridiculous. Thanks a lot you tree huggers for not letting us drill in Alaska. Are the reindeer that much more important then you wallet now? Don't get me wrong, i love the outdoors but uhhh i would also like to get from point A to point B without paying 70 dollars every time.

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Part of the whole gas price increase is because the value of the dollar keeps going down. If it was worth what the euro was right now (comparitvely) we would be at about$58 a barrel. The value of the oil is in a way staying the same while the value decreases meaning it takes more to buy less.
Oil and gold are held at the same commodity. Supposedly our money is backed by gold but when you inflate the dollar (print more money out of thin air i.e. the federal reserve) then the prices go up to compensate for the products original value. Oil and Gold are always held at the same commodity. Just kinda clarifying your point here sir.

What we need to do as a nation is quit spending. PERIOD. Bring all the troops home, cut these lame welfare programs, create tax reformation (like a flat tax or fair tax) and make saving a priority. The more money you save the more you have to loan. The more you have to loan, the more businesses pop up. You get the drift.
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Old April 17th, 2008, 05:28 AM   #73
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Then its not really the gas prices that are killing you per se, its your circumstances, your planning, living outside your means, and maybe just dumb luck. I know you have talked about your wife having an Expedition, so, yeah, that would suck for gas.

Again, if gas going up like $100-$200 a month is killing you, and you have a house, expidition, built newer jeep, etc then you cut yourself too thin.
The expedition was bought on a 6 year loan and this year is the last year. Gas was a non issue back then. I'm not hurting but it did bring to mind a question folks around work have grumbled about and I actually looked the other day for alternatives and really didn't see one that actually saved me money from my current setup in the end. It kinda hurt last May when I broke my control arms and was stuck in the situation of having to lift it sooner than planned, but I got over it.
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So you all know about the email going around for awhile about boycotting gas for a day? Maybe you dont. But it suggested one day of not buying gas. How will that make a difference? What i suggest, instead of not buying gas for one day, pick a big name oil company and not buy from the gas station that they supply to. If one company takes a huge hit of not making any money, is it possible they might start to lower gas prices? In Traverse City right now it is 3.56!!! Any ideas to that one?
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So you all know about the email going around for awhile about boycotting gas for a day? Maybe you dont. But it suggested one day of not buying gas. How will that make a difference? What i suggest, instead of not buying gas for one day, pick a big name oil company and not buy from the gas station that they supply to. If one company takes a huge hit of not making any money, is it possible they might start to lower gas prices? In Traverse City right now it is 3.56!!! Any ideas to that one?
Yea Exxon Mobile and BP are the two biggest oil companies supplying in the US. What you do is boycott all Exxon Mobile stations and BP stations and than go to another station like shell or speedway, even miejer and costco. When mobile and BP stations start to notice a big enough drop in customers they will begin to lower their prices. This is a price war. This only works if everyone does it but no one ever does. Buying no gas on a certain day i the biggest waste of time because you will just buy the next day.... so they are out money for one day... they make up for it the following day.
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No boycott or daily boycott or anything will make one bit of difference. the only thing that will change will be to decrease worldwide demand or increase supply, thats IT.
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No boycott or daily boycott or anything will make one bit of difference. the only thing that will change will be to decrease worldwide demand or increase supply, thats IT.
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If we could just reduce our dependency by 10%...

Think about it. It isn't that hard. It could have a huge effect.
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Its the whole reason I moved to Grand Haven. I was spending $700 a month on gas alone.
?? We have the highest fuel in the world in tricities?? You must have been commuting b4 im guessing.
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No boycott or daily boycott or anything will make one bit of difference. the only thing that will change will be to decrease worldwide demand or increase supply, thats IT.

This is the reason they don't work. People like you don't make any effort and sign it off.
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i am 19. Think back when you guys were 19... gas was what... a dollar.... maybe 2 dollars. Kids my age (the ones that work) have to pay all of our f-ing money on driving to work and for what? so we can drive to work and make 0 profit? I am starting to think my generation got f-ed over big time here. There is literally nothing i myself can do except go on these forums and bitch. It's getting ridiculous. Thanks a lot you tree huggers for not letting us drill in Alaska. Are the reindeer that much more important then you wallet now? Don't get me wrong, i love the outdoors but uhhh i would also like to get from point A to point B without paying 70 dollars every time.
What about the people that lived during the depression, pretty sure they had it worse than you
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