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Old April 9th, 2008, 02:26 AM   #1
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So my truck got keyed and the plate stolen saturday night/sunday morning.
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My Girlfriends friend dumped her boyfriend because he "supposidly" told her he is an ILLEGAL immigrant (remeber this part). This girl gets all over one of my friends shortly after (shes actually pretty hot, but about as smart as a blade of lawn grass) and he rejects her. He later on tells his cousin (her ex) to call her during a night of drinking.
They end up starting to date again. The four of us goto the B.O.B. not this past weekend but the weekend before. This kid is apprently somewhat stalking this girl now (he went as far to get a job as a temp at the company she works for) and is also at the B.O.B. that night. He goes up to my friend and thretens him, but he is on probation and cant fight . without jail time. I tell him he dosent want to mess with him because I WILL play clean up. Some girl he was with walks up and drags him away. He eventually gets himself kicked out.
Well sure enough on our way out he comes running across a parking lot. I grab him, through him to the pavement outside of a parking garage and tell them to find a cop (ass bled all over my new jeans and I fucked up my leather shoes). My girl calls 911, and I held him pinned. No cops ever shows and two random "good samaritins" pull me off him and he runs off. We hop in the elevator, and he is walking off the stairs as we get out. At this point im really pissed so I goto my truck grab my peace maker (3ft galvinized steel pipe) and go towards him. He finnally runs off.

So this past saturday I get hammered at a friends house and spend the night at my girls leaving my truck at my friends (not the guy dating the girl, but they were there). I get a phone call sunday morning about how everyones license plates were stolen and the cars keyed.
I went to his house, he denied and it was hurt him or leave. Gave him some good threats and left.

Now, If he is illegal, and I put him in the hospital and destroy his truck (cops were called, getting the paper work line, but I have been involved in this stuff from the other end, without any hard proof, that they wont look for, not much is done) how much trouble will I really get into?

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Old April 9th, 2008, 02:28 AM   #2
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just as much trouble as if he were legal.


Edit: You are a badass. So much so that my starfish puckered when I read this.

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None at all.. Use the defense that he shouldn't be here anyways, so there for you have the consitutional right to beat the every living shit out of him for
A: Being in the country anyways.
B: Not listening to you when you said you were gonna play "clean up"
C: He should know better than to mess when sombody that carries a "peace maker" (galvanized 3' pipes are for pussies BTW)
D. Being in the country anyway, and shouldn't have a truck, nontheless a Truck.
E. He fucked up your truck. (I think, got lost there)
F. You are a badass.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 02:47 AM   #4
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Dont forget that he dosent pay taxes. And that since I am usually a law adidng tax payer, and I cant even get the cops to do some cop work for me.

The pipe works great for two things. Great extension for my breaker bar when 1 foot just isnt enough, and scaring off morons when my gf is bitching about me fighting (it dosent happen too often, the figting that is).
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Dont forget that he dosent pay taxes. And that since I am usually a law adidng tax payer, and I cant even get the cops to do some cop work for me.

The pipe works great for two things. Great extension for my breaker bar when 1 foot just isnt enough, and scaring off morons when my gf is bitching about me fighting (it dosent happen too often, the figting that is).
Last time I checked he is "supposedly" an illegal immigrant. Until you prove it, you have nothing. Even if you do prove it, you have nothing.

As far as "getting cops to do cop work" for you, what would you like them to do? Come out to your truck and dust it for prints? look for hair samples to send off to the lab and get DNA so they can find who keyed your truck?
Come on, turn off CSI and learn how the real world works.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 02:59 AM   #6
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I know cops arent going to do a whole lot. But we have told them the sittuation, and her work partners car got fucked up the same night. Hes making it pretty obvious its him. They could at least stop at his house and ask him a few q's.

Instead Im stuck with the bill for a new plate and fixing the paint on a blazer I was getting ready to sell.

Like I said, Ive been throught this before from the other end (egging cars in hs, I owned up pretty quick) and nothing is really done.
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Ok so your truck got vandalized. That is why we have insurance. Hopefully full coverage if not I hope you at least keep comprehensive insurance on your truck with the pl/pd.

As for you going for legal action. Don't forget you made threats towards this person. That right there is a crime. For which this person could file charges for.

I think you should suck it up, don't get stupid drunk leaving your truck somewhere it can be damaged.

Find new friends because obviously your current ones don't care about your property.

Now for the license plate that is a crime to use a plate that belongs to another vehicle. So I suggest you contact the SOS and have that plate terminated and get a new registration and plate.

As for your actions the other night. That is felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm.

So my final Advice is to drop this whole thing and let it go before you end up in the clink yourself.
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To be totally honest. I think any body living in the united states ilegally should have no rights what-so-ever. Shot on site while jumping the border is how i feel. I think he came here legally but has over stayed his welcome. Finding out his status is top of the priority. Getting him deported would make me a small amount happier about it know I can go out for a good time and not worry about who is waiting for my family/my friends/myself/my possesions.
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Ok so your truck got vandalized. That is why we have insurance. Hopefully full coverage if not I hope you at least keep comprehensive insurance on your truck with the pl/pd.

As for you going for legal action. Don't forget you made threats towards this person. That right there is a crime. For which this person could file charges for.

I think you should suck it up, don't get stupid drunk leaving your truck somewhere it can be damaged.

Find new friends because obviously your current ones don't care about your property.

Now for the license plate that is a crime to use a plate that belongs to another vehicle. So I suggest you contact the SOS and have that plate terminated and get a new registration and plate.

As for your actions the other night. That is felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm.


So my final Advice is to drop this whole thing and let it go before you end up in the clink yourself.
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Not to hi-jack but holy crap Flat Fender finally aggrees with me on something.
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To be totally honest. I think any body living in the united states ilegally should have no rights what-so-ever. Shot on site while jumping the border is how i feel. I think he came here legally but has over stayed his welcome. Finding out his status is top of the priority. Getting him deported would make me a small amount happier about it know I can go out for a good time and not worry about who is waiting for my family/my friends/myself/my possesions.
With your political views, you must have a real hard time living in Saugatuck...

Let it go.
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If you truely believe he is here illegally then contact INS give them his full name and date of birth. If he is here illegally they will pick him up.
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Not to hi-jack but holy crap Flat Fender finally aggrees with me on something.
I know, weird huh...
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X2 on dropping it. But if he is stalking then I just beat his ass so bad he has to go to the hospital and if he is illegal they will find out and will handle it. Have your friends around to say you were protecting yourself. And don't use that pipe. Your not a true badass if you have to use a pipe.
But shitty to hear of you cars and plates. But if they are reported stolen and they get reused then the cops will get em.
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Ok so your truck got vandalized. That is why we have insurance. Hopefully full coverage if not I hope you at least keep comprehensive insurance on your truck with the pl/pd.
Its a 95 and I have a bad driving record, $530 every 6 months is enough to bend over and take for straight up plpd.


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I think you should suck it up, don't get stupid drunk leaving your truck somewhere it can be damaged.
it was in my friends back yard. Not hanging out in a reguarly visable place for young kids or whom ever to fukc with. Woul have been no safer to be in my driveway or my girlfriends.

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Find new friends because obviously your current ones don't care about your property.
This certainly isnt there fault. Other than the girls and she has been voted off the island

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Now for the license plate that is a crime to use a plate that belongs to another vehicle. So I suggest you contact the SOS and have that plate terminated and get a new registration and plate.
Well its a cutom plate and if it is used (which I hope I see it) it will be taken back. However I have to register my truck on friday so I will probably rid it dirty till then. I have driven past numerous cops w/ out issue. And IF I do get pulled over and they do give me a ticket it will be fought and won.

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As for your actions the other night. That is felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm.

So my final Advice is to drop this whole thing and let it go before you end up in the clink yourself.
It was my buddy put him in the hospital and him in jail, or what i planned on, a cop doing some work and him in the back of the car for stalking or attemting to assault. He came after us, he got kicked out of the bar, he followed us to GR.

I have a feeling, IF this is let go, it will not stop. She has a P.O. in the works, if its approved. But I will not deal with a truck that is constantly vandilized, or any attempts on myself because a lesson is not taught (dont fukc with peoples shit) I am giving it the full week before I do anything else. I just hope I dont run into him.
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Suggesting any type of beat down is not good advice. Unless it is truely in selfdefense.

Just by having friends there saying it was self defense is not good. Because when it goes to court. Trust me it will go to court. Now your asking your friends to commit a felony called perjury.

Take the advice of leave it alone, if this person is harrassing you start calling the police. After so many reports you will have enough evidence to file for a ppo (personal protection order). You may not get it but at least you will have reports on file incase something serious does happen.

Also stating that someone is illegal immigrant and they are not can become slander and defamation of a person which are also crimes.

The best thing to do is to just leave this alone stay low for awhile and it will all blow over in time. Stop acting like your a freakin highschool kid.
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X2 on dropping it. But if he is stalking then I just beat his ass so bad he has to go to the hospital and if he is illegal they will find out and will handle it. Have your friends around to say you were protecting yourself. And don't use that pipe. Your not a true badass if you have to use a pipe.
But shitty to hear of you cars and plates. But if they are reported stolen and they get reused then the cops will get em.

I dont need to use a pipe, not with him. Im 6'4" 210lbs benching 200lbs. Hes 5'7" 135 soaking wet. The pipe was because I just wanted to scare him off for good.
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It was my buddy put him in the hospital and him in jail, or what i planned on, a cop doing some work and him in the back of the car for stalking or attemting to assault. He came after us, he got kicked out of the bar, he followed us to GR.
You going after him with a 3' pipe is felonious assault. Even though you didn't touch him.

Assault = the intent (or threat) to hit someone
Battery = the act of hitting someone
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If you get pulled over and ticketed for no plate. If you try to fight it your going to loose. Because you are knowingly driving around with out a plate. Which is in voilation of vehicle code.

Oh and the next time you see him he maybe carrying a gun. What the hell is your pipe going to do when he can hit you from 21 ft away.
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FYI, I work at a hospital, we dont give a shit if your illegal. WE CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. Nor will the police when he comes in with wounds from a assault. The hospital will have to call the po-lise to take a report but they wont give a shit since we all know illegals use fake ID's and sosch numbers.
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