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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #41
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i dont sit at a desk. thats all i have to say.
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #42
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #43
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:08 PM   #44
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no, its technically a Cubical!
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:10 PM   #45
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I'm a civil servant, as in working for your friendly state government. I'm not liking it as much as I used to, so I'm on short time. Decisions in a bureaucratic organization aren't based on logic, and I can't deal with it anymore. It can't even be explained.

Some good advice to some people. DON'T base what you think you might want to do on money alone, and stay in a field where you can move around. I currently make good coin, have a killer pension (unheard of) and tits benefits, but I hate it. Really hate it. Really fucking hate it. And I can't go anywhere else and do the same thing. So I'm off to school this summer for a few semesters. I'll be making less money for a bit, but you can't put a price on happiness or your sanity.

There's a balance you have to maintain. Don't pimp yourself out over money. You have to be content also.
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:12 PM   #46
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Customer Service Manager.

It's what happens when a Radiological Health Engineer decides that they want to try something else after 15 years.

It's challenging - about 70% IT and 30% 6 Sigma/Lean work.

Build flexibility into your education and attitude. I started off in automotive and quickly shifted to defense (still at GM). After moving a few too many times for a young family with kids, I went to a local electric utility. Stable (compared to the autos), but limiting: slow growth (now contraction), regulated environment, culture, etc...

What I'd tell a young person is to look into nuclear power (the ultimate renewable energy). There are a lot of new plants on the drawing board, and all of us experienced nuclear guys are getting older (hint, hint)...
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:14 PM   #47
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going to school to be a Mechanic

my advice to you.

dont do it! there is no jobs around here and 98% of shops are a joke and you will mean nothing to them. young techs are a dime a dozen. you can and will be replaced at any time!

i have been with the same company for 6 years and have seen my year to date fall big time, and my benefits are a joke! i was paying 35 bucks a week for crappy insurance and now i am paying 55 bucks a week for even more crappy insurance!

my boss says i am lucky to be working.
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Old April 6th, 2008, 10:44 PM   #48
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Old April 7th, 2008, 10:38 AM   #50
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Finishing up my Fire Science/Basic EMT Associate in Applied Science Degree. I will be done next Fall. If I cannot find a job in that field, I will most likely be moving out of State. So I started packing early
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Old April 7th, 2008, 10:50 AM   #51
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ME, powertrain design for Ford. I have done a lot of crap in the last 8 years… 4 years manufacturing; helical gears, AL cases (wet and dry machining), laser welding, clutch drums, sub assemblies and final assembly… Then 4 years in powertrain design; auto trans systems, auto trans calibration and diesel engine calibration. I start my new job next month as a systems engineer on a true global program. I believe this is the future of US automakers, which is why I took the job. Daily interaction with Germany, Thailand and China.

My advice would be bio-med. It is growing fast. It combines the engineering you want to do with the medical demands the market needs. Kettering has a great program, so does MTU and Purdue.

My second piece of advice would be to take a second language...
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I am a salesman for an ESOP Wholesale Lumber company. I started doing transportation and logistics, and have moved into sales full time. While it is a struggle with the economy currently I have still managed to increase my sales month after month, and when things turn around I will be in a great position.

That being said, while it is depressing to hear others struggle, this industry is quickly resetting itself. People that joined the game because it was lucrative are now leaving further securing the position we have as a company.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 11:05 AM   #54
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i dont think they can out source natrual recources and the jobs they hold going to school wildlife ecology and managment/forest managment
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Old April 7th, 2008, 11:09 AM   #55
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One of my good friends holds that exact degree, and can't get a job with it. Right now she's a dog groomer.
My fiance holds a degree in graphic design, and she's making more money as a dog groomer than she'd get as a designer.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 11:09 AM   #56
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I am anti-education.... I am still going to school for "CAD" at OCC but I have had a job I wanted since I was 19. I design car engine stuff for faster than normal production cars. I'm still not sure where I want to go from here but it is definately up, just not sure in which direction... we'll see.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 11:11 AM   #57
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Started as a Systems Admin for a smaller Tier 2 automotive supplier. Did that for a couple years and moved into the engineering department as a Project Engineer for automotive projects and some government/defense type side projects. Did that for a couple of years and realized the automotive industry is teh suck and not worth the headache.

Now I'm a Network Admin for a non-automotive company (golf club/accessory manufacturer/distributor) that actually makes money. Plus a driving range and par 3 on site. Little to no stress and all the golf balls I want to hit for free with whatever club(s) I want. ('8

My advice - stay away from the automotive industry. Government - either working directly or indirectly - is where the money is at right now.

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I disagree with you.

More of our product is coming in from overseas every day. It used to be because of the strength of the dollar. Now it is broken pretty evenly across the board based on cost of labor/production, lack of political bullshit, and the availability of 'virgin' trees elsewhere.
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I disagree with you.

More of our product is coming in from overseas every day. It used to be because of the strength of the dollar. Now it is broken pretty evenly across the board based on cost of labor/production, lack of political bullshit, and the availability of 'virgin' trees elsewhere.
additionally many of those "resource management" jobs are government jobs. government employees tend to stay put for a long time. said jobs also are often the first to get downsized in favor of "critical services" when government budgets are cut.

the GIS type jobs that practically require a Dual Masters with the BLM based upon the experience/quals they seek start out making some 40% less than I currently do working for a local township... (or at least that's what I was finding last year when I was heavily looking for work)
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My fiance holds a degree in graphic design, and she's making more money as a dog groomer than she'd get as a designer.
when did she receive her degree. bachelors? if she falls under the category of those flood of graphic designer graduates (98 and after) when all the programs changed to teaching whatever is on your computer screen is all that matters this is most likely the reason for low in field pay or no job. for designers there is a separation line. those who are older and understand and use the principals of offset lithography. even when I was running strictly design groups if you didn't design with end production process in mind you were out of a job. there is more to the field than your 2d computer screen. they really cut out the production end of the degrees and hurt all those that followed. nowadays I can have 10 out of 10 applicants that want me to pay them $20 hour yet cannot tell me what a tint reduction trap is. I don't really even bother calling new grads for interviews cause I know they can't cut it on what they know and have a hard time emotionally with a tight deadline schedule and last minute overtime.

over the years as company's began to scale back on their advertising and print costs things have become much tighter. agencies cannot charge what they used to and they began to downsize and streamline their departments. many good colleagues of mine found themselves out of work in the cold as a result. also this brought on the big pay drop for those who were riding the wave of unchecked corporate spending.

it's an ever evolving position and most of those looking to graphic design only want to sit at a computer and do nothing else. Years ago this business was very predictable. now it's day to day or week to week. no longer do the schools teach how to manipulate the clientele when it comes to design and 96% of the kids looking for jobs are too smart-mouthed to shut up, listen and learn.

it has become hard to break into the field now. I don't look at any resume with less than 5 years experience as it is not worth the headache to try and teach someone who doesn't want to learn, really doesn't want to work, and only wants time off and a paycheck.
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